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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:08 AM
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Floyd Dryden 6th graders learn gun safety
http://juneauempire.com/outdoors/2011-10-21/floyd-dryden-6th-graders-learn-gun-safety#.TqLb-5sr2so

“We hope we helped to either save their lives or someone around them or just give them the knowledge of how to be around guns safely, and to be active in the outdoors,” Coate said.

Coate emphasized students learned not just about guns, but how to survive in the wild if something happens while on a fishing trip or a family hike. Students also learn about wildlife conservation.

“It’s really just life skills,” she said, “which is something that is stressed in part of the creed of the Cooperative Extensive 4-H program.”

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:11 PM
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1. k and r. Excellent post! nt
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:22 PM
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2. K & R also, although someone will cancel it out ...
and that same person will probably whine about how children and teenagers are killed in tragic accidents caused by their lack of knowledge about firearm safety.

Some people just make me want to bang my head.

:banghead:

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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:58 PM
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4. It's OK Spin. There's nothing wrong with safety education.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 03:01 PM
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5. Good. We definitely agree on that! (n/t)
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 06:47 PM
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6. I'm sure we agree on lots of things
:toast:
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 05:57 PM
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9. Add one more K&R
This was something that was common prior to the 80's, a safer, simpler time.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:35 PM
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3. Awesome.
We were old enough to handle sex ed in the 6th grade, we can handle this.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:16 PM
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13. Wow! I did not have sex until the 10th grade...
Good for you!!!
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:56 PM
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7. Good post! NT
NT
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 05:28 PM
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8. Thanks. I hope the trend continues. nt
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 05:59 PM
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10. Good for the school! A smart idea and it sounds like the kids had a lot of fun
Although I did find the picture of the little girl in the meat bag a tad creepy, despite her huge grin. I'd have chosen a different illustration... :)
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DWC Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 11:41 AM
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11. Excellent post. We need more like it. n/t
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 11:55 AM
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12. Awesome. They should have this everywhere.
"Another teacher, Rebecca Goertzen, said that 90 percent of Alaska homes have guns, so even if a student’s parents don’t own a firearm, it’s likely they will be invited to a house that does have a firearm.

“They need to know what’s appropriate and what’s not appropriate” when it comes to handling guns, she said."


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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:47 PM
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14. Hope they showed photos of innocent folks shot and dying like they do in driver education courses.
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:31 PM
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15. huh?
Why would they show pictures of people shot to student drivers?
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:52 PM
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18. God, I hope you ain't packing in public.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 06:43 PM
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27. It was a response to *your* mangled syntax in post #14
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 06:46 PM by friendly_iconoclast
I hope you don't attempt to write for a living with examples of your ...work like that available for all to see.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 07:28 PM
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29. Don't want to waste my good stuff on you guys.
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 07:30 PM by Hoyt
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 08:46 AM
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31. Don't worry, so far you certainly haven't wasted anything good. n/t
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:34 PM
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16. They also probably failed to inform them guns kill people.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:53 PM
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19. Depends on what kind of instructors they have -- those that glamorize guns or those teaching truth.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:58 PM
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21. There's only one truth when it comes to firearm safety.
The love of the sport will come naturally...but safety needs to be taught.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:49 PM
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17. I see no problem with showing students the results of what damage a firearm can cause ...
if used irresponsibly. Firearm safety is serious. Firearms are dangerous.


How to Teach Your Child Gun Safety
Article by Philip Bourjaily. Uploaded on November 30, 2005

As an overprotective modern parent who gets nervous when my kids ride bicycles to a friend's house, I would not teach my children to hunt if I thought it were dangerous. Better they have a gun in their hands, than, say, a skateboard. Hunting and shooting have low accident rates precisely because we place so much emphasis on gun safety. Although hunting should be fun, teaching kids to be safe shooters doesn't call for much sense of humor. Treat the topic seriously, and children will respond to the gravity in your voice.

ASSIGNMENT NO. 1: DEMYSTIFY GUNS

Young boys, especially, find guns fascinating. Keeping guns forbidden and mysterious only increases their allure. Let your kids handle your guns with your permission and under your supervision. Show them how to check whether the chamber and magazine are empty. Let them point the gun in a safe direction. Teach them now that the only time they are ever to touch a trigger is when they want the gun to go off.

Take them to the gun club, where they will see targets smashed to bits. Show them the bloody holes your guns put into the animals you bring home. A friend likes to impress new shooters with the power of firearms by shooting a cantaloupe at 10 paces with a 12-gauge. The distinction between real and toy guns will be as clear as the difference between real and toy cars....emphasis added
http://www.fieldandstream.com/node/57347

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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:55 PM
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20. Take em to Nat'l Civil Right Museum and show em how guns have been used to intimidate and oppress.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 03:01 PM
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22. Then teach them how firearms can keep them from being intimidated and oppressed.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 03:13 PM
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23. Sure. That's just the opposite of what they -- and we -- need.
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We_Have_A_Problem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 03:27 PM
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25. Really?
So you seriously think that teaching them how firearms can be used to ensure they retain their rights is not what they need to be taught? They should only be taught how they have been misused to stifle freedom and repress rights?

Pretty twisted, but hey, you feel free to teach your kids that.

I, on the other hand, will teach my daughter proper safety and shooting techniques. I will also teach her that one of the reasons the people retain the right to keep and bear arms is to remind the government exactly who works for whom when necessary. Note please, I said WHEN necessary, not IF necessary.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 03:27 PM
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26. Hoyt, you and others have spoke often of the "impact on society "
that concealed carry has. I would at this time ask you to explain to me exactly what this "impact on society" is.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 06:52 PM
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28. Don't want the little snowflakes to develop false consciouness, do we?
Best to let inconvenient truths like the existence of the Deacons for Defense and Justice disappear down the Memory Hole...
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 03:24 PM
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24. Are you aware of the role that firearms played in the Civil Rights movement?

Profile: Deacons for Defense and Justice
The Use of Guns in the Civil Rights Movement


The thought of guns during America’s Civil Rights movement generally conjures up images of acts of violence perpetrated against African-Americans and civil rights workers in the South. But guns also played a significant role in dissuading violence, primarily through the actions of the Deacons for Defense and Justice.

A Call to Arms

On July 10, 1964, eight days after the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Earnest Thomas and Frederick Douglas Kirkpatrick assembled a group of African-American men in Jonesboro, La., forming the Deacons for Defense and Justice (DDJ).


***snip***

Despite the resistance, the DDJ’s efforts were effective. In 1966, King was convinced to allow Deacons to provide security for the March Against Fear from Memphis to Jackson, Miss. In his book The Deacons for Defense: Armed Resistance and the Civil Rights Movement, Southern Institution for Education and Research Executive Director Lance Hill wrote that Deacons helped diffuse a potentially violent situation at a Jonesboro high school. When picketing black students had fire hoses turned on them, DDJ members began loading shotguns in view of police officers stationed at the school. Officers responded by turning away the fire trucks.

Perhaps most importantly, the DDJ forced enforcement of the Civil Rights Act after armed Deacons tangled with Klan members in Bogalusa. As a result, federal authorities forced the Klan in the area to disband in a move that was symbolic of the direction in which the civil rights movement was headed.
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/guncontrol/a/Deacons-for-Defense.htm


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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 04:17 AM
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30. They show pictures of people shot in drivers ed?
That's just stoopid.
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