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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:29 PM
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Sheriff: Time For Citizens To Arm Themselves
The Spartanburg County Sheriff is known for speaking his mind, and at a news conference on Monday, he didn't hold back his anger and frustration after a woman was attacked in a park over the weekend.

Investigators said 46-year-old Walter Lance grabbed a woman who was walking her dog in Milliken Park on Sunday afternoon. They said Lance choked the woman, made her take off her clothing and tried to rape her. (Full Story)

Lance is in custody and was denied bond on Monday.

Sheriff Chuck Wright opened his news conference by saying, "Our form of justice is not making it."

He said, "Carry a concealed weapon. That'll fix it."

Read more: http://www.wyff4.com/news/29638219/detail.html#ixzz1cOvYEovG
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:34 PM
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1. they should do a guns-for-toys drive
bring in your kid's bike, give him the gift of protecting him in exchange. :patriot:
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:35 PM
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2. I'm sure someone has thought of that already.
n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:41 PM
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3. We are safer than we have ever been.
But by all means, Dirty Harry up 'merica.

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ObamaFTW2012 Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 06:22 PM
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4. Somebody must not have told that poor lady walking her dog in the park
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 06:34 PM
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6. Tell that to the 60 to 80% of wome who are raped.
Also too, the young boys and girls who are repeatedly raped by a close adult relative or friend or authority figure.

You sit a group of 10 women down ask them to be honest and you will find that at least three were raped by their fathers. And it would be most unusual for less than 10 to say they had never had sexual intercourse forced on them.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 06:49 PM
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8. you are not really at odds here
The point being made was that random violence in public is on the decline.

The victims you are talking about (and whom I talk about here weekly) are not likely to be arming themselves against their fathers, uncles, neighbours, co-workers, clergy, dates, friends, flatmates ...

But the gun militants of the world just love to drag out rape victims as the voices they choose to appropriate in order to shove their ugly agenda, an agenda that is actually against women's interests in the real world.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:20 PM
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9. nt
Edited on Mon Oct-31-11 07:21 PM by onehandle

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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:48 PM
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13. And we are more armed than we have ever been. Maybe coincidence. Maybe not. n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 09:12 PM
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14. Not.
The death penalty does't deter crime, nor does having a gun.

Criminals generally don't read gun ownership statistics.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 09:36 PM
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17. You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 09:45 PM
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19. Yes, this age of armed teabaggery is full of hot air. nt
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:41 PM
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33. 'Givin' 'em mouth-to-mouth resuscitation?
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:38 PM
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32. This needs correction...
"...nor does having a gun crime." You don't know that, Onehandle.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 09:34 PM
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15. I wonder how much that decline has been assisted by Citizens....
who have rediscovered their own ability to use efficient tools for self-defense....
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 09:45 PM
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18. See #14. nt
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 09:49 PM
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20. I'm not talking deterence, I'm refering to actual usage in defense.
YMMV.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:53 PM
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21. Oh, you're talking about the millions of 'self-defense' stories that are pushed by 'ammoland'...
Edited on Mon Oct-31-11 10:53 PM by onehandle
...and other 'reputable sources' of that type.

I live in Georgia. I know a Lot of people with guns.

None of them, as far as I know, have ever used their guns outside of target practice or hunting.

A friend of mine has shot himself in the leg. Twice.

Somehow I doubt that story would be 'headline news' in the gun extremism community.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:45 AM
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22. If by "reputable source", you mean direct links to news stories...
then yeah. Ammoland, thearmedcitizen.com, keepandbeararms.com, probably more. Politics aside, they link directly to the local media news stories.
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 09:11 AM
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24. Meanwhile, back on the ranch........................
I agree w/several post in this thread: Too much TV. Too much CSI. Too Much Law and Order.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=5044018&mesg_id=5044018
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:35 PM
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31. Still using movies as your source material? nt
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 10:56 PM
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38. Fiction often works best for the emotional objectives of the anti's.
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 06:29 PM
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5. "Carry a concealed weapon. That'll fix it."
Unless the other person unconceals theirs first.


Duh.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:25 AM
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23. Very few rapists/sexual assailants use any weapon at all
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, in 2009, the number of rapes/sexual assaults that were committed using a firearm was so small that the BJS couldn't assign a percentage. An estimated 85% of rapes/sexual assaults are committed using only personal force (i.e. no weapon) and when a weapon is used, it is most commonly a knife.

The fact is that the majority of non-fatal violent crime isn't committed using firearms.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 11:31 AM
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29. "The fact is that the majority of non-fatal violent crime isn't committed using firearms."
Yes, that's a very interesting fact indeed.

The counterpart is that when a firearm is used in the commission of a crime the morality rate is multiples of what it is when no firearm is used.

For instance, homicide figures in the US handily conceal all the robbery events where the robbery victim was killed by a robber who used a firearm.

Conversely, the rate of homicide in the course of sexual assault, i.e. as a proportion of all sexual assaults, is actually minuscule.
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 08:24 PM
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35. Of course the criminal will have a gun regardless of what the law says.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 08:29 PM
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36. yes, the guns will drop into their hands
like lawn darts from the sky.

All they need to do is click their heels three times.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 06:46 PM
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7. fish in a bleeding barrel
Gaawwwd you people are easy.


http://crazyworld.blogs.goupstate.com/10450/spartanburg-sheriff-chuck-wright-endorses-nikki-haley-for-governor/

Anyone who knows the sheriff knows that he’s a bit peculiar with endorsements. He tends to be picky, as is his right. In fact, the only two instances I can remember where Wright lent his name to politics was when he stood up to nominate LaDonna Ryggs as the new chair of the Spartanburg County Republican Party (and his friends say they advised him to stay out of that), and an early, casual endorsement of Alan Wilson for attorney general during this year’s Republican primary.

I was talking with Wright about another matter today and asked him, not expecting an answer, when he was going to roll out endorsements. He told me I could put him down for Haley, and that he was, in fact, endorsing her.

“I’m supporting Nikki Haley. I like her,” Wright said. ...

This endorsement isn’t a total surprise, but Wright is one of the Republican leaders in this county that a lot of people look to.


Yup, there's the person I'd be turning to for guidance.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:23 PM
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10. "I want you to get a concealed weapons permit. Don't get Mace. Get a firearm."
he said. of course, this will get ripped because it is SC. she said.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:02 PM
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11. how about
because he's a Republican party stalwart, and apart from that we know absolutely bugger all about him, so we have no particular reason to give a crap what he might say?
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:08 PM
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12. It's been that time for 250 years or more.
trouble doesn't make an appointment....always go prepared to keep your family and yourself safe.
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 09:37 AM
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25. Difference between gun owners and non-gun owners.
Gun owner: H&K in your back pocket.
Non gun owner: KY in your back pocket.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 09:45 AM
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26. so unspeakably disgusting on so many levels
we'll just let it speak for itself.

Oh heck, maybe you could clarify.

Was your little joke misogynist or homophobic in its intent?
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 09:54 AM
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28. Neither.
Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 10:15 AM by Remmah2
My beliefs are that all people should be able to equally protect themselves.

Nice try Mr. Twister.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:43 PM
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34. You seem to find 'em all! nt
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 09:50 AM
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27. H&K's pretty spendy...make mine an M&P



and shouldn't that be KY in your back....nevermind. :)
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:20 PM
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30. isn't this one of those "appeal to authority" fallacy thingy's some of ya'll like to get
up on your high horse about??

i'm not going to start carrying a gun around 'cuz some redneck, right wing asshole thinks i should :eyes:
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 10:47 PM
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37. I don't think anyone is using him as one
Just saying that he said it.
do you know where the term redneck came from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck

For the revolution to work, I think all of the 99 percenters be united instead of being Jay Gould's wet dream?

I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.
Jay Gould
US financier & railroad businessman (1836 - 1892)
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:01 PM
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39. well, if he's not being used as an authority figure, why would we care what he says?
and yes, i am well aware of where the term redneck came from....

if he's not being used as an authority figure, why do we care that he's a sheriff?

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