Ad for gun training bars Muslims and Obama voters

[LAGC]

A radio ad for a handgun training class that bars Muslims and Obama voters has sparked an investigation in Texas.

"We will attempt to teach you all the necessary information you need to obtain your ," the ad says. Then towards the end, it adds: "If you are a socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner in chief, please do not take this class. You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision under the law."

And then: "If you are a non-Christian Arab or Muslim, I will not teach you the class with no shame; I am Crockett Keller, thank you, and God bless America."

The ad ran for six days on KHLB, Mason's local station. It's also been heard tens of thousands of times on Youtube.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/ad-gun-training-bars-muslims-obama-voters-153954962.html

I'm a little torn on this one. On the one hand, the Civil Rights Act bans businesses from discriminating on the basis of race, gender, or disability (traits people can't change) -- but what about political or religious beliefs?

Part of me says if he wants to lose out on business from liberals and non-Christians, so be it, so long as he's not the only trainer in town. Let other business owners get more business while folks boycott his bigoted ass.

It will be interesting to see if any lawsuits develop.

[slackmaster]

1. My take is that Mr. Keller is getting lots of free advertising

He'll gain a lot more business than he loses, and I doubt that anyone has standing to sue him for it.

[slackmaster]

36. Mr. Keller was interviewed on my local AM radio station this morning

My initial comment was right on the money.

[Speck Tater]

2. Personally, I think it's time for Liberals to stop crying every time someone says "I don't like you"

I know a lot of narrow-minded idiots who don't like me because I'm a liberal. Ask me if I care what they think.

[Hoyt]

17. Yea, but it's concerning when some Ahole like Crockett trains people to shoot folks.

I can guess what the silhouette targets look like, and I bet the trainees just laugh their asses off during the whole thing at Crockett's bigotry.

[rl6214]

34. "trains people to shoot folks"?

You don't even know what a concealed carry course is all about. Most of the class is teaching how to avoid or defuse a situation. A lot of it is situational identification, when you can and can't use your firearms.

"I can guess what the silhouette targets look like,"

I'm sure you can BUT the state requires the targets in the link below so as usual, your guesses don't mean shit.

http://www.dcsa.bizland.com/chlinfo.html

[Hangingon]

37. TX DPS requires use of B-27 target.

[TheWraith]

19. "I don't like you" isn't the point. Open racial and religious bigotry is.

More to the point, bigotry while acting on behalf of the state, supposedly providing necessary services. That's never acceptable, and he deserves to be shamed, boycotted, and have his instructor certification pulled.

[SteveM]

3. Gun trainers/dealers will take up the slack in Austin. nt

[Euromutt]

4. I find it hard to imagine there's a lot of Muslims in Mason, TX anyway

If the guy had said he wouldn't train Catholics there'd be more reason for furor.

[slackmaster]

8. I Googled mason texas churches and didn't see anything that looks Catholic in the results

YMMV

[Euromutt]

14. I was alluding to the fact that most Hispanics would probably self-identify as Catholic

And you may have missed this result: St. Joseph's

[Hangingon]

38. Mason was settled by Germans.

I'd expect Lutherans too.

[Hoyt]

18. With good ole Americans like Crockett training people, I bet a lot of groups are sparse.

[Euromutt]

20. Why don't you go take a Turing test?

I sincerely doubt you'd pass.

[Hoyt]

22. I'm sorry, I forgot many gunners admire Crockett because he is a fellow gun toter.

[friendly_iconoclast]

25. Why don't you give us a few examples?

I'll be rereading the Encyclopaedia Britainnica in its entirety while you're busy finding any...

[Euromutt]

32. Keep making my point for me

Your responses are so predictable you make ELIZA look convincing.

[rl6214]

35. Why don't you give us a few examples of

WTF a "gunner" and a "toter" is.

[SteveM]

29. Significant number in Austin, and many other religions as well.

[Euromutt]

31. Yeah, but this Keller guy is in Mason, apparently

That's two hours' drive from Austin, and the population of the whole county barely exceeds 4,000 people.

[Hoyt]

5. Guns and right wing views seem to go together often. I'd be wary of anyone taking his "class."

BTW -- who certifies people to "train" folks on carrying guns?

[iverglas]

7. yeah, kinda surprising to see that here, eh?

I mean, talk about reinforcing yer stereotypes ... right-wing asshole gun militant, step right up, case in point ...

Ah, "the racist roots of gun control"!

:rofl:

[oneshooter]

12. In Texas it's the DPS. Who trained you about firearms, Daffy Duck?

[Euromutt]

15. The article linked in the OP says so, in fact

And that the DPS is investigating Mr. Keller with an eye to pulling his trainer's license if he's in violation of anti-discrimination laws.

[Hoyt]

16. Unfortunately, a member of the "gun culture" finally shot Daffy.

[friendly_iconoclast]

26. It was a relative of yours, wasn't it? Elmer Something-Or-Other, IIRC

The last name is at the tip of my tounge, I'm sure to recall it directly...

[oneshooter]

27. Elmer Hoyt? n/t

[friendly_iconoclast]

28. Nah, that's not it. It was a mutual aquaintance of Daffy and his friend Bugs.

I do remember distinctly that the guy taught Hoyt everything he knows about guns...

[ProgressiveProfessor]

23. The state is the formal certifying agency

[krispos42]

6. He's an ass.

But he's in a state where that sort of asshattery will be rewarded.

Fuck him with the horse he rode in on.

[gejohnston]

9. with "friends" like him

who needs Brady? Sounds like a business opportunity for another instructor.

[ileus]

10. Glad I don't need his training.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

11. Ahh...

...no one needs his training! ;)

[Euromutt]

13. To paraphrase Lisa Simpson , "I know those words, but that ad makes no sense."

Who's "the current campaigner in chief"? It can't be Obama, he's not actually campaigning at present; the only "current campaigners" are all Republican, and which one of them is "in chief" depends on what day of the week it is (and they say Romney's a flip-flopper...). Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if this ad was broadcast during Rick Perry's brief surge of popularity, i.e. while he was "campaigner in chief."

And what if you're a liberal, but not a socialist (i.e. you don't advocate common ownership and cooperative control of the means of production)?

And what's he got against Druze and Mandaeans?

See, these are the kinds of questions you raise when you don't use words the way they are commonly understood, but use them to mean what you (idiosyncratically) want them to mean.

[Kennah]

21. Keller was on Thom Hartman Monday, and he walked it back

[gejohnston]

33. Walking back seems like an understatement

It sounded like he tripped over something sprinting backwards.

[phantom power]

24. People who want to arm one political party and not arm other political parties... creepy

[Logical]

30. My CC instructor was a right wing wacko.