Another Gun Range Suicide in Central Florida

[mikeb302000]

http://www.news4jax.com/news/Man-shoots-himself-dies-at-Fla-gun-range/-/475880/4790802/-/wpbmctz/-/index.html">News 4 Jax reports.

Authorities are investigating after a man fatally shot himself in the head at a central Florida gun range.

Orange County deputies said the 45-year-old man arrived at the gun range Friday night and began shooting in the practice lanes. The Orlando Sentinel reports he then shot himself in the head. He later died at the hospital. His name has not been released.

Authorities are investigating whether the shooting was accidental or intentional.

I guess it could have been accidental. But, my bet is it was another of the fairly frequent gun range suicides. I'll bet they're just about as frequent as http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2011/11/guns-at-airport.html">the guys who get caught trying to take guns on planes in their carry-on.

http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2009/04/mother-and-son-at-shooting-range.html">Remember the mother and son story? That was in central Florida too.

What's your opinion? What's more frequent, gun-range suicides or confiscated guns at the airport?

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[gejohnston]

1. So you hate Florida

have you ever been here, or know anything about the place other than some ad hominem from some political blog?

I guess it could have been accidental. But, my bet is it was another of the fairly frequent gun range suicides.

He could have been a UFO researcher murdered by MIB and made to look like a suicide. It could have been a Civil War minie ball that went through a time warp accidently killing him. If you are going to speculate, do it right.

I'll bet they're just about as frequent as the guys who get caught trying to take guns on planes in their carry-on.

I bet no one keeps statistics and no one really cares.

Remember the mother and son story? That was in central Florida too.

No I don't. Was it written by Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings?

What's your opinion? What's more frequent, gun-range suicides or confiscated guns at the airport?

I will guess the latter. But again, I doubt anyone keeps such statistics or really gives a shit.

[Simo 1939_1940]

6. "He could have been a UFO researcher murdered by MIB

and made to look like a suicide. It could have been a Civil War minnie ball that went through a time warp accidentally killing him. If you are going to speculate, do it right."

:rofl:

[PavePusher]

2. Your definition of "frequent" is quite faulty.

But you knew that...

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

3. With a population of 300,000,000 and nearly as many (or more) guns... this is not "frequent".

It would appear your lexicon requires service.

To answer your question, I would have to imagine confiscated guns are more frequent, albeit still rare.

[Union Scribe]

4. OMG, more evidence guns cause people to kill themselves!

That's why I always put ear plugs in AND wear muffs so that I can't hear their evil whisperings urging violence.

[Jamastiene]

5. Lol

That's a good comeback. I couldn't help but :rofl:

Well done!
:thumbsup:

[ileus]

7. What method of suicide do you approve of?

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[ObamaFTW2012]

9. Would you prefer they kill themselves at home,

just like my dad did? Will that make you happy? It didn't help me any. I suppose it saved the local gun range owner from having to clean my dad's brain matter off the walls and ceiling, but it didn't make my life any easier when I had to look at the big hole cut out of his living room carpet and smell death while going through his papers and personal things.

But I'm sure you don't care. To you, my dad is just another statistic to add to your demented arguments against freedom.

[iverglas]

13. wowsers

Been there, done that, haven't you?

You were lucky. Some suicidal people - especially men - decide to take others with them. (Or vice versa: they decide to kill someone else and then decide to kill themselves.)

This is most common, and of course a whole lot easier, when the "tool" used is a firearm.

That was exactly the situation in the mother-and-son case:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30109090/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/mom-kills-son-then-self-shooting-range/

The gun used was rented at the range.

... Larry Anderson, a manager at Shoot Straight, said it's unclear whether the Moores had been to the range before, but they weren't regular customers. The range requires that customers fill out a form with a series of questions, including whether they have ever been convicted of a felony or been declared mentally unstable. But it has no way to verify the information.

A pretty easy way for someone barred from purchasing a firearm legally to do some mass murdering (almost all mass murderers also being suicidal) if they get the urge.

Here's another more classic one:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missouri-couple-found-dead-alleged-shooting-range-murder/story?id=14464596

A Kansas City, Mo., couple who met through a dating website were found dead Tuesday at a shooting range in an apparent murder-suicide. The woman is the alleged victim, police said.

... Hilburn had recently come out of a 20-year bad relationship and Ocampo was the first person she dated since her breakup, Gregor said. Hilburn left behind two daughters, ages 5 and 16, who are being cared for by her sister.

... This is not the first time the Bullet Hole has been the site of deadly shootings. In March 2010, a man committed suicide at the range and three others killed themselves there in 1997, according to the Kansas City Star newspaper.

Personally, I'd rather not rely on the suicidal stranger next to me deciding to go it alone and not in company.

Here's how the gun club at a major recreation centre in Canada's capital handles things:

http://www.racentre.com/raweb/E/Sports/Gun.html

Members without a Firearms License (PAL), can join the Club and may shoot under the direct and immediate supervision of a licensed member, during their FIRST season of membership. Since this supervision is provided by volunteers, shooting limitations may occur depending on the availability of licensed members. To increase shooting opportunities, members are encouraged to get their Firearms License (PAL) as soon as possible.

ALL returning members will be required to have their Firearms License (PAL).
Members who only participate in air rifle and/or air pistol shooting disciplines and have no need to use club firearms, are exempt from the Firearms License (PAL) requirement, but must still register for and complete the respective internal club safety course(s)

I'd feel considerably more secure with rules like that in place, I think: mandatory licensing of people who want to possess firearms anywhere, as the fundamental rule for the protection of public safety, and gun range rules requiring direct supervision of anyone not yet licensed, on a one-time only basis.

[Remmah2]

14. The gun used was rented at the range.

Can one rent a bridge?

PS: The thread is about suicide at a gun range, nothing else. Period. Stop trying to make a purse out of a sow's ear.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

17. One need not rent a bridge...

you can just drive over and jump...

[iverglas]

18. quick! look over there!

You'll forgive me if I ask: what did you dream my post was about?

[ObamaFTW2012]

15. Oh, it gets better

My dad hid his depression from me. He and my mom divorced when I was 4, and he disappeared for 20 years. I found him, established a relationship with him, and after he divorced his second wife, brought him to live nearby from 1500 miles away. He became good friends with one of my close friends, George.

George had a rough time in life after his wife left him. He moved to Vegas, immersed himself in gambling and substance abuse, and overdosed one night. He choked on his vomit and was found dead the next morning.

My dad took it hard. I didn't realize how hard. He never let on how unhappy he was before George died, and didn't give me any reason to think it would push him over the edge, but it did. In my last phone conversation I told my dad I would follow up to let him know about funeral arrangements for George. That was the last time we spoke.

My dad didn't return my calls, and after I called him one evening to have him over for dinner and got no response, I got worried. I found his cars parked outside, his lights on, and no answer at the door. I wanted to break down the door, but I was armed, and decided it would be smarter to call my friends at the Sheriff's Office. I gave no thought to what the worst might be should I break down the door, and I am relieved now that I didn't do it, because my friends (one of whom happens to be the head homicide investigator for the county) told me it was really, really bad.

So I had the unique experience of dealing with my dad's death and funeral arrangements while grieving for my friend and attending his funeral.

I don't believe that my dad, wanting to die, would have been any less "successful" in his endeavor if he did not own a gun. He had a bathroom full of prescription pills, a kitchen full of knives, rope, cars, cleaning chemicals, etc. I don't feel the gun made it any easier than popping some pills and washing it down with his drink of choice, Bacardi rum.

[Simo 1939_1940]

16. At the range where I shoot, if you rent a firearm you have

to bring in one of yours.

[jmg257]

10. You should recommend a '1 strike you're out' rule for suicides.

'If anyone kills themselves, we recommend they lose the right to possess guns'. A simple test is all that is needed, making this another 'common sense' & 'rational' restriction to keep a number of ill-fit people from owning guns.

[rrneck]

11. I dont usually like to kick these

but that was funny.

:rofl:

[spin]

12. LOL ... good one! (n/t)

[Atypical Liberal]

19. LOL I wish this board had up-votes.

You'd think Mike would be looking for more firearm suicides.