November Firearms Related NICS Background Checks Up 16.5 Percent

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The November 2011 NSSF-adjusted National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) figure of 1,101,076 is an increase of 16.5 percent over the NSSF-adjusted NICS figure of 945,463 in November 2010.

For comparison, the unadjusted November 2011 NICS figure of 1,527,454 reflects an 18.7 percent increase from the unadjusted NICS figure of 1,286,817 in November 2010.

This marks the eighteenth straight month that NSSF-adjusted NICS figures have increased when compared to the same period the previous year.


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Yepper, those gun nuts are in a rut alrighty.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

1. Guns, gold and discount commodities are expected to rise during poor economic times.

Fast food places, "lower-class" outlet stores (walmart), self reliant products (guns, knives, etc), gold/silver...
Demand for all of these types of things typically grow in prportion to public fears of economic recession, depression, or collapse.

[rfranklin]

2. Good to know we are making progress toward a better society...

soemwhere along the lines of Somalia.

[Remmah2]

4. Guns never solved anything.

Except freeing slaves and preventing the mass extermination of a race or two.

[hack89]

41. With two decades of steadily declining violent crime rates

we must be doing something right. You have to go back 50 years to find lower murder or other violent crime rates.

And do you know what the funny thing is? They have continued to decline even as gun ownership has skyrocketed.

Relax - you have never been safer.

[Remmah2]

3. Damn it.

They'll be hoarding ammo in January.

[burf]

6. Simple, reload your own! n/t

[ileus]

7. I plan on adding 5.56 and 7.62x39 starting in Jan...

Can you ever really have too much plinking ammo?

[ileus]

5. Power over your life is shifting back to the people.

[Hoyt]

8. Guns empower you? That is sad.

[friendly_iconoclast]

9. Only for people that would have liked to live in 11th century Europe...

...or 17th century Japan, both notable for few (if any) guns and feudal government. Plus Western Europe at that time had murder rates that made 1970's South Bronx or 1990's DC look like Sunnybrook Farm.

So yes, guns do empower you- and that's a good thing.

[chibajoe]

10. Guns do not empower anyone

The ability to protect and defend yourself is what empowers people. It just so happens that guns are the most efficient tool to achieve such a goal.

[Hoyt]

11. Naw, you don't need a gun to protect yourself, especially in public. Sorry you feel that way.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

15. How good of you to make that determination for everyone...

What is your suggestion for people who are NOT capable of martial arts on scale that makes Bruce Lee look like a newb?

[Hoyt]

18. Just the 96%ers who see no need to carry in public.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

19. Doesnt matter how many see no need.

Rights are not based upon need or even popularity. Sorry Hoyt, but unless you can offer actual concrete proof that mere carry of a firearm by one affects the rights of another, then you really don't have an argument.

[hack89]

42. So you have no problem what so ever with guns in the home? nt

[MicaelS]

12. "Five years ago it was politically incorrect (to own guns),"

.. what seems to be changing is social acceptance," said Bret Jordan, analyst at investment firm Avondale Partners. "I think there might be a changing view of firearms."

"The general trend is it's more socially acceptable to own a gun in the United States than it was five to six years ago," he said.

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/05/9227335-ready-aim-buy-why-gun-sales-spiked-on-black-friday

I bet that gnaws at your guts doesn't it? :evilgrin: :rofl: :beer:

[Hoyt]

13. Hopefully health care reform will enable gun carriers to get the help they need (not from a gun).

[PavePusher]

14. Accusations of mental illness? Really? n/t

[BiggJawn]

17. Cheaper diabetes meds?

I'm all for it!

[Hoyt]

20. Excellent point, hypo/hyperglycemia and guns don't mix. Perhaps diabetics should not carry.

I'd never thought of that before, but I had a good friend that would get confused, upset, etc. Would not know where he was or what he was doing. I think we need to add that to the background check.

Anymore thoughts on medications and health issues that might warrant gun restrictions.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

25. Hmm...

Lets see - that's a violation of HIPPA and the ADA for starters...

You realize you are openly advocating for the deprivation of rights based upon a medical condition, do you not? Never mind the privacy violations required in order to implement your fantasy.

[Hoyt]

31. Hope you know more about guns than you do HIPAA or ADA.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

36. By all means, point out what i said which is inaccurate.

Simple implication counts for nothing.

[spin]

26. Strange. I can't find any accounts of people who misused firearms ...

while they were suffering from hypo/hyperglycemia. Such incidents must be relatively rare. Sounds like a non problem to me.

[PavePusher]

30. Facism, much?

You really are a bigoted piece of work.

[Hoyt]

32. No, I think toting should be banned across board, not just those with hallucinations, confusion, . .

You know, someone confused, close to a coma, can't recognize friend from foe, loss of vision, etc.

How about Alzheimers, mental illness, blindness, seeing ghosts, paranoid, etc.

Of course, you are right in that I think anyone who totes in public -- particularly populated areas -- is sufficiently impaired to make gun toting problematic.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

38. Lets see....

Someone who is close to a coma is likely dealing with an acute, short duration issue. He is also either in need of serious medical care or undergoing it. In either case, he is not likely to be even capable of handling a firearm, let alone using one. That he may or may not own one is irrelevant.

Cant recognize people due to mental infirmity? Again, very likely to be under immediate care.

Loss of vision? So going blind means you give up the right to defend yourself? One need not have 20-20 vision to recognize an attack.

Alzheimer's? Again, very likely under the care of a full-time caregiver and it isnt your place to disarm him, but his family's.

Mental illness? What do you want to put into that category? That's pretty wide ranging - would you apply the same limitation to any of the other rights? If it is severe enough to be incapable of proper functioning, that person is already under someone's immediate care - possibly even involuntarily committed.

Blindness? Nope - sorry - rights are not lost for that. There are blind people with CCW's in fact, and even if they don't carry, who are you to say they cannot own firearms?

Seeing ghosts? Last I checked, that isn't anything of anyone's concern except the person seeing them. Certainly not yours.

Paranoid? Well that's pretty damned subjective and there may well be a reason for a person's paranoia. Either way - not a reason to restrict their rights. Their fears, founded or otherwise, harm nobody.

Last but not least, you claim that the very fact that someone carries in public is prima facie proof they are mentally impaired? Really?

At least you blatantly admitted it - you believe someone who wants to exercise their rights must be insane and therefore should have that right taken away...

[BiggJawn]

35. Maybe you should take away our cars, kitchen knives, power tools and bicycles while you're at it

Man, don't you ever get a cramp, reaching like that?

[spin]

24. Just what help do we need?

Those that I know who own and in some cases legally carry firearms seem to me to be able to largely care for themselves in an emergency. Others who don't own firearms, not so much. If I dial 911 because someone is breaking into my home while I am there, I don't have to be scared half to death until the police show up. If some fool attacks me on the street and I don't have an opportunity to dial 911, I have the means to defend myself available.

Of course the likelihood of such incidents happening is fairly low. I don't sleep at night with a handgun under my pillow fearing a home invasion, nor do I nervously check out every individual I see in a parking lot suspecting that they intend to mug me. From your numerous posts I suspect that you believe that I and others like me own and carry firearms because of fear. That is so false as to be laughable. In my case I currently own and carry firearms as they have been my major hobby for 50 years. Others do own firearms as they live in areas where they may feel a realistic need for a tool to use for self defense. That was my case when I lived in Tampa in an area with a fairly high crime rate. Home robberies and street crime were an everyday event. I didn't live in fear as I would have moved if I had. I just obtained handguns which I could use for home defense and some more compact handguns better designed for daily carry. My neighborhood went steadily downhill during the last 20 years I lived there. There was only one time when one of my handguns proved essential. My 18 year old daughter stopped an intruder who was in the process of forcing the sliding glass door in the kitchen open. She pointed one of my large caliber target handguns at him and he wisely ran. Not shots were fired. The guy was determined to gain entry was there was a burglar alarm sounding and a sixty pound black lab in the house.

Finally I retired and moved to a more rural area of Florida. The small town I live in now is far more peaceful than my old Tampa neighborhood, but I was surprised when I found out just how much crime there is. Of course, drugs are easy to find and much of the violence is linked to drug use and the drug trade. There are still gang wars in this small town and occasional drive by shootings. One resulted in a couple of deaths in a mobile home a few blocks from where I live about two year ago. Home invasions are relatively rare in this town as just about everybody is armed with shotguns and rifles. Hunting is a big deal in this area and probably more popular than college football. The Florida Gators and the Florida State Seminoles both have a large fan base in this area.

[BiggJawn]

16. I helped that total.

Bought a rifle.

[DonP]

21. My health has improved since I found the Marlin 39A I've been looking for.

Now I'm spending more time with friends in the fresh air at the range shooting a lot of cheap .22 ammo for a few hours on the weekends.

I wonder what gun control people do with their spare time, besides sitting in Mom's basement typing angry, ill informed posts on web sites?

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[spin]

27. None of my firearms have a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds ...

and the ones that do hold ten rounds are .22 caliber target pistols or revolvers.

I don't know many people who carry firearms with large capacity magazines concealed. They are simply too large and heavy to concealed carry comfortably in the Florida heat. My own carry weapon is a revolver that only holds five rounds.

edited for typo

[We_Have_A_Problem]

28. To be completely fair...

A lot of people carry full-sized pistols with standard capacities of over 10 rounds.

A standard capacity 9mm or .40cal will likely hold between 14 and 19 rounds depending upon design and caliber for example.

[spin]

34. My experience is with Florida ...

Among the shooters I know who have permits and regularly carry, only one carried a full sized handgun. He was a businessman who owned his own business and carried a SIG-Sauer in a holster on his belt under his suit jacket. In his office he often took the jacket off but none of his employees ever bitched about him carrying. When he wasn't wearing the suit, he wore scrubs and was sometimes confused with a hospital worker.

When I first got my permit, I tried to carry a full sized 1911 Colt Auto. When that didn't work, I tried a Ruger SP101 revolver which did work better. My favorite handgun right now is a S&W Model 642 Airweight in a pocket holster. Sometimes in the cold months I carry a S&W Model 60 in an IWB holster under my jacket.

In the summer I have heard that some natives will conceal a full sized firearm under a loose fitting Hawaiian shirt. That's a giveaway that you are packing heat unless you are in an area with a lot of tourists. Try walking into a gun store wearing a Hawaiian shirt and watch the reaction.

I'm sure some Floridians do carry full sized weapons on a daily basis but I have rarely met one. Of course some people just carry when they feel they need a weapon. If I found myself in a situation where I felt that a handgun might be needed, then I might suffer the discomfort and carry one.

When the outside temperature is 95 degrees and over 80% humidity, concealed carry can be sweaty and uncomfortable if you choose the wrong weapon.

[DonP]

29. The 39A holds 21 rounds in the tube

Don't underestimate the lowly .22.

Like the gunnies always say, "I've never met anyone that wants to get shot in the face with a .22 from a few blocks away".

Now you can go back to the basement and continue as I described before.

[SteveM]

23. While many point to the election of Obama, something else may be at work...

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports

Data on NICS sales hung around 8+ million for several years preceding 2006. Then a notable rise took place:
2006: 8,952,945
2007: 10,036,933
2008: 11,177,355
#
2010: 14.4+ million

Obama was elected in 2008. While some have speculated that the election of a Democratic Congress in 2006 spurred these initial sales, there has been little to support this. Whatever the cause, it seems to have started before Obama, and may continue on for some time after whoever is (re)elected.

[Hoyt]

33. I can tell you that where I live, the gun stores were full when Obama elected -- Tbaggers mostly.

Remember, they're trying to take their country back from the man in the White House.

[SteveM]

37. The sales increase started in 2006. Was Obama elected then? nt

[burf]

40. Didn't the Democrats win both houses of Congress in 06?

[SteveM]

43. Indeed, and this may be the reason why. But it is left out of the "sales" debate. nt

[hack89]

39. That damned backlash again. nt