Or we could work over the CCW abuses in New York again

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http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/nypost/246975111.html?did=246975111&FMT=ABS&FMTS=FT&PMID=42522&desc=NYPD+BIG+UNDER+FIRE+IN+AEROSMITH+%27GOT+A+GUN%27+SCANDAL (you have to pay to read the document in full but i will give some snips)

November 24, 2002 -- A top NYPD official is being probed for helping rockers Steven Tyler and Joe Perry obtain pistol licenses in return for alleged VIP treatment at an Aerosmith concert and ritzy after-party, The Post has learned.

At the time, the rockers - whose fame and wealth has attracted stalkers over the years - already held gun licenses in Massachusetts and several other states, a source said. note thats 2 known shall issue states they have a permit for

On Nov. 12, 2001, Petrofsky, then a captain, allegedly traveled to Madison Square Garden with another cop to fingerprint the duo before an Aerosmith concert that night.

Both rockers were soon issued carry permits, though an NYPD spokesman declined to say what guns they're licensed to carry.

"He's a family man with five lovely kids, and the suggestion that he did anything improper is absolutely preposterous," said another friend, Bo Dietl, a former NYPD detective.

Theres one, what else can i find?

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-nygun302946032sep30,0,1324595.story?coll=ny-nynews-span-headlines


Cleared to Carry in City
Permit totals drop, but not for notables

The one-time mayoral aides appear on a shrinking list of licensees. Nearly 30,000 carry permits were on the books in 1981; as of Aug. 31, the number was down to 3,389. Permits are down in every category except retired law-enforcement officers, driven by the large numbers of cops leaving the force. Arent retired cops considered SUPER CITIZENS these days, why shouldnt they have more rights than others???

The list of licensees - requested by Newsday under the Freedom of Information Law - is peppered with notable names, such as former city commissioners, elected officials, judges and celebrities.

Onetime City Hall insiders with permits include: deputy mayor Rudy Washington; chief of staff Anthony Carbonetti; Youth and Community Development commissioner and Board of Education member Jerry Cammarata; Office of Emergency Management director Richard Sheirer and Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik - who, as a retired cop, is exempt from most of the stringent licensing requirements.

At least three other former commissioners could carry guns, according to the NYPD data: Joel Miele of the Department of Environmental Protection; Diane McGrath-McKechnie of the Taxi and Limousine Commission, whose permit was canceled in August and has since retired out of state; and Sanitation head Kevin Farrell, a former NYPD chief.

. Kerik told Newsday that he carries a gun because "every retired cop has the right ... I've always had one."

The only category increasing is guns issued to retired officers - which include members of the NYPD, Port Authority and FBI - probably because of the tide of retirements, Richter said. That number rose 5 percent over the past year to 12,208, according to police data.

Exceptions to these requirements are former police officers, officials with law-enforcement duties (such as Queens District Attorney Richard Brown, a longtime permit holder) and Civil, Criminal and State Supreme Court judges (including Justice Leslie Crocker Snyder of Manhattan, who received death threats after presiding over drug cases).

But even those applicants need to provide their fingerprints and maintain a clean record. Well atleast the SUPER CITIZENS have to maintain a clean record.

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Donna Mills, for example, charged with driving her Rolls-Royce while intoxicated in the Bronx in July, had her carry permit suspended in August, police said. Like to make a note here: SUSPENDED

Those licensed to carry guns in other states and even other jurisdictions within this state still need local approval to bring weapons into the five boroughs. According to the License Division, more than 800 people have this approval, including State Senate Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno and comedian Buddy Hackett.

Richter disputed this. Movie stars - like De Niro, Harvey Keitel and Steven Seagal - and millionaires - like Donald Trump and Winthrop Rockefeller - have to meet the same requirements as anyone else, he said. But unlike everyone else they ALL got permits.

Among the 38,299 handgun licenses in the ciyt, here are some prominent names:

FORMER GIULIANI AIDES

Joel Miele

Environmental Protection Commissioner

Richard Sheirer

Emergency Management Director

Anthony Carbonetti

Chief of Staff

Jerry Cammarata

Youth/Community

Development Commissioner

Bernard Kerik

Police Commissioner

Kevin Farrell

Sanitation Commissioner

MTA OFFICIALS

Lawrence Reuter

NYC Transit President

Joseph Hofmann

NYC Transit Senior Vice President

Thomas Savage

MetroCard operations chief

Michael Ascher

Bridges and Tunnels President

David Mack

Vice Chairman

Rudy Washington, former deputy mayor

Board Member

James Simpson

Board Member

ENTERTAINMENT FIGURES

Tommy Mottola

Record executuve

Steven Seagal

Buddy Hackett

Robert De Niro

Harvey Keitel

Chazz Palminteri

Howard Stern

Don Imus

OTHERS

Richard A. Brown

Queens DA

Leslie Crocker Snyder

State Supreme Court

Fernando Mateo

Livery-driver advocate

Winthrop Rockefeller

Millionaire

Donald Trump

Developer

William F. Buckley

Columnist

Joseph L. Bruno

State Senate Majority Leader

http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Books%20and%20News/Celebrities%20Get%20Guns

BOSTON GLOBE
BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS
JANUARY 8, 1993

NEW YORK - Bill Cosby Do you think Bill Cosby changed his opinion on guns when his kid was shot and killed?is on the list. Joan Rivers, too. And Donald
Trump, William F. Buckley, Jr., Arthur Ochs Sulzberger and Howard
Stern. There's even a Rockefeller on it - Laurence.

Porn mogul Al Goldstein, the editor and publisher of Screw Magazine
and producer of the late-night cable show "Midnight Blue," has been
trying to get on the "gun carry" list since 1978, the year Hustler
Magazine publisher Larry Flint was crippled by an assailant's bullet.
Following a string of rejected applications, he has taken his case
all the way to the New York State Appeals Court.

Sulzberger, the retired publisher of The New York Times, said he
needed to carry a gun to safeguard the wads of money he carries
around town. He got one. Photographer Irving Elkin requested and
received a permit on the grounds that he carries "money and expensive
cameras." Bill Cosby was issued a permit in 1988 after stating that
he and members of his family had been the object of unspecified
death threats. Donald Trump and radio host Howard Stern also cited
death threats. "Threats, as ever," wrote the conservative journalist
William F. Buckley Jr. on this application for renewal of his permit.

A lewd attack in the pages of Screw Magazine on the late Ayatollah
Khomeini after he sentenced the writer Salman Rushdie to death
occasioned a battery of death threats. The reaction was serious
enough to prompt an investigation by the FBI and the New York Police
Department. And if that weren't enough, an article in a South African
Islamic publication called al-Balaagh raised the specter of god-drunk
"hit squads" enroute from Africa and the Middle East to New York City
on a mission to "blast the dirty godless editor off the face of the
earth." Documented proof of death threats investigated by the FBI, and yet this guy still cant get a permit. Maybe he needs to shell out some of that porn money to the police departments and politicians.

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