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Brightmore Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:45 AM
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What If Jews Destroyed Mosques?
What If Jews Destroyed Mosques?
alt.muslim
Farhan Memon
September 12, 2005


Imagine if Jewish settlers in the Gaza Strip destroyed two dozen mosques. There would be mass rallies in front of Israeli embassies around the world, and in America organizations like CAIR and MPAC would issue righteous condemnations calling on the American government to restrain Israel. However, as we've seen today, when Palestinians streaming into liberated Gaza set fire to synagogues there is deafening silence from most Muslims and certainly from the leadership of the American Muslim community.

Herein lies the sorry state of Islamic affairs. Muslims like to brag that when the Caliph Umar ibn Khatab entered the City of Jerusalem, he exhibited respect for Jews and Christians by refusing to pray in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, because he was afraid that Muslims would take it over. Indeed, to this day, a Muslim family is entrusted with the key to the church. In contrast, this Islamic spirit has ceased to exist 1,400 years later. The Palestinian authority is incapable (or unwilling) to provide security for the abandoned synagogues, the Palestinian people lack the adhab to refrain from destroying a temple dedicated to the worship of Allah, and Muslims in America are indifferent to this destruction because it is occurring to Jewish property.

Of course, as the New York Times reported today, this was a set up orchestrated by the Israeli government. Originally the synagogues were to be bulldozed with the rest of the illegal settlements constructed by Israeli settlers during their withdrawal from the 38-year occupation of Palestinian land. However, prominent rabbis argued that Jews can't destroy synagogues, and Ariel Sharon "was left with two bad choices: tearing them down, or leaving them standing with the knowledge that they might be desecrated."

Yeah, right. More likely Sharon rejoiced at the opportunity. He knew that the Palestinian Authority would not act to prevent the destruction. As a consequence, pictures and headlines would be flashed around the world showing Palestinian Muslims destroying synagogues. Once again the familiar narrative would be reinforced: Palestinian Muslims are barbarians, and Israeli Jews are justified in their brutal methods, otherwise civilization would fall.

The wholesale destruction of the Jewish synagogues is yet another indication that Palestinians of all stripes, whether Fatah secularists or Islamic Hamas types, do not have the political maturity to construct a civil society. However, it is also a sign that Muslims in America lack the conviction of their religion to condemn sacrilege when it is committed by Muslims against others.

http://www.altmuslim.com/perm.php?id=1546_0_25_0_M
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:52 AM
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1. The Apocalypse
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 10:53 AM by Coastie for Truth
The UN would condemn Israel and the US.

Zionism would be equated to "Ethnic Cleansing" by the General Assembly.

AlQaida would explode "Dirty Bombs" in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa and twenty American cities - at least.

And the skin heads would have a field day.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:53 AM
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2. I'll take "Total Mayhem" for 500, Bob!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:05 AM
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5. oh man
:rofl:

needed that one
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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:56 AM
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3. Palestinian vs Israeli ...

It really doesn't matter. If the Palestinian's held the upper hand, they would beat the Jews into the desert.

Neither faction is right. And neither faction is really wrong. It simply does not matter.

What is telling is that Israelis DO show restraint where Palestinians show violent rage.

That is not to say there aren't Palestinians who bemoan such behavior like suicide bombings and the deliberate and willfull desecration of Jewish holy sites. It just says that these people are not in charge and probably will not be ... EVER.

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:02 AM
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4. Israelis would do the same thing
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:07 AM
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Brightmore Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:08 AM
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8. That doesn't make sense at all
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:13 AM
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10. That was requested by the PA N/T
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:07 AM
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7. funny

how all the small mosques and such in the hundreds of Palestinian villages destroyed by Israelis with explosives after 1948 don't count.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:11 AM
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9. Yep...
..ancient history ya' know. The less said about it the better.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:20 AM
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12. And Polish Peasants
staged a pogrom in the 1880's in my great grand parents village in Poland, killed my great grand father, and raped my great grand mother.

That's why I like beef Polish sausage, and "punshka's" and call my cat "Punshka."
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:33 AM
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14. You know,

there really is nothing I could possible add to that selfdescription of your mental health.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:16 PM
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16. Is Israel preserving the mosques?
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/622332.html

<snip>

"The Palestinians may wonder whether the principle that one must not harm holy sites applies only to synagogues, or to abandoned mosques and churches as well. Does the demand that the Palestinians - or an international body - take responsibility for the synagogues apply also to the Israeli government vis-a-vis the abandoned mosques in Israel? And if we are in such a hurry to expose the Palestinians' shame to the world, are we ready to expose Israel's shameful behavior vis-a-vis the Moslem holy sites as well?

Out of some 140 village mosques that were abandoned due to the war in 1948, some 100 were totally torn down. The rest, about 40, are in advanced stages of collapse and neglect, or are used by the Jewish residents for other purposes. In a moshav in the Carmel mountains there is a mosque whose remnants still display its past grandeur. It is in a sad state of disrepair, it's walls are crumbling and it is surrounded by barbed wire fences. The requests of "present-absent" refugees (Palestinian who live in Israel but are classified by the state under the oxymoron `Present Absentees' to prevent them from claiming ownership of their property) to repair the mosque have been refused by the authorities.

A large mosque in the heart of a moshav in the Judean mountains serves as a warehouse and body shop for farming machines. There are 20 additional similar structures on the verge of collapse.

In 1997, when the residents of a community in the Western Galilee wanted to build an extention, they rammed the remnants of the village's abandoned mosque with a bulldozer and demolished it completely. Not far from there the authorities refuse to allow Palestinians to pray in the ancient mosque of another abandoned village, using the excuse that such prayer is "political organizing, almost a settlement and would set a precedent for agreeing to let the Palestinians return."

Several mosques serve as housing, and others are used for commercial and cultural purposes. The mosque of an abandoned village on the Iron Valley serves a kibbutz carpentry. A mosque in an artists' community in the Carmel serves partly as a restaurant and bar. Other mosques serve as museums and galleries. The large synagogue in a township near Rehovot is located inside the abandoned village's mosque, whose minaret was destroyed and the symbolic half crescent atop its dome has been replaced by a menorah."
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:08 PM
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17. Way to go...
and kill and thread. :P
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:15 AM
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11. I'm curious - where did you find this article?
I don't think I've heard of the writer or the source before,
& I'd like to know where you found this site.

Thanks!

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Brightmore Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:21 AM
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13. Google News
had it linked when I looked for news on Gaza.
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:08 PM
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15. Temples were left for political reasons; judging by this post it worked.
Better they take out their well deserved repressed anger on things than on people.
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