Hamas Launches Web Site Encouraging Kids to Become ´Martyrs´

[occuserpens]

2006-03-08 Hosting apocalypse now

Hamas Launches Web Site Encouraging Kids to Become ´Martyrs´

[endarkenment]

1. Unreliable rightwing propaganda source. nt.

[tatertop]

2. Thank you for making that clear

I am not familiar with the source and
I hate having to waste time debunking shit like this.

[idontwantaname]

3. dupe and fake site.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=118383&mesg_id=118383

[Tom Joad]

4. U.S. website encourages young people to become martyrs and

kill innocents.
See www.goarmy.com

[cali]

5. That's just a logical

fallacy. Nearly all nations have a military. Some have a volunteer service, others require service. Comparing the military force of a country to a website that is purportedly directed at young children with the intent of enlisting them to become martyrs, is illogical.

Having said that, I don't think it's been decisively concluded that the aforementioned site really is what some people are claiming it is.

[endarkenment]

6. Not really a fallacy.

The purported HAMAS related website link in the Arutz Sheva rightwing propaganda web page referenced in the OP doesn't work. The site itself is clearly filled with hate propaganda directed against palestinians. "The Palestinian Authority's ruling Hamas terror group..." That is where you can stop reading. The source has no credibility or objectivity.


"Comparing the military force of a country to a website that is purportedly directed at young children with the intent of enlisting them to become martyrs, is illogical."

At what age do you think GOARMY type advertising is aimed? From the shows and times I've seen I'd say it is aimed at the very impressionable tweeners.

"Nearly all nations have a military" - yeah well guess what, the Palestinian military is reduced to throwing stones and blowing themselves up as that is all they have left to fight with. What exactly is the moral superiority of blowing people up with tanks and planes vs blowing people up with a bomb in a backpack?

[cali]

7. Actually, they tend to start the inducements

in high school. I was active, last year, in helping my son and other kids run a counter-recruiting program at his high school.

I don't believe that the site in question is legitimate- that's why I used the word purportedly. My argument still holds. It's illogical, much as one may despise the military- to argue equivalency between recruiting children to act as martyrs and enlistment in the armed forces. Let me repeat, I do not believe that this is a legitimate site.

The Palestinian military and its degraded condition could never justify recruiting children to fight or die. Period.

[pelsar]

8. what are you writing about?

The Palestinian military and its degraded condition could never justify recruiting children to fight or die. Period......they've been doing that for years......

they usually start with kindergarten....you've never seen the pict of the baby sucide bomber, or the kindergarten class where the kids raise their hands in red paint in imitation of the palesteniains who lynched and dragged their bodies in the streets of ramalla years ago?...the stone throwers starting at age 10?....covering for the shootings?...the lookouts?

[idontwantaname]

9. hey now...

palestinians dont have a military... they have gangs remember?

theres no central command... no real unity... and no control.

[pelsar]

10. good point....

sort of a pseudo military......