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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:50 AM
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We're Fighting Back. ADL Acts to end the hypocrisy


The cartoon war is not over. We need your donations to keep fighting back.

The sad truth is extremists have just been looking for an excuse to carry their hatred into the streets.

The reality is vicious, anti-Semitic cartoons continue to appear in the Muslim and Arab media almost daily.

Arab and Islamic leaders have misled their fellow Muslims and deliberately fanned the flames.

* A Muslim boycott of a Danish dairy producer forced the layoffs of hundreds of innocent workers
* Deliberate, violent riots were orchestrated from Europe to Asia
* Iran inserted itself into the fray to escalate matters by running a Holocaust denial cartoon contest.

Last month we we asked you to sign ADL's petition of solidarity against this hypocrisy. You heeded the call and ADL received over 10,000 signatures. In the meantime Islamic leaders call for another “day of rage.”


For the next fight in this war, ADL will bring a special seminar on the real cartoon war to local communities across America. This unique program will cover:

* The real story about Arab anti-Semitism
* What it means to you personally
* How to fight back and protect the future

Represent Your Community In the Battle Against Hypocrisy by Funding this Fight



Take a look at any typical newspaper in the Muslim world.

Every day you will see offensive cartoon caricatures of Jews:

* Jews with fangs dripping blood
* Jews as shadowy figures hoarding money or gold
* Jews controlling the world

Speak out against this despicable anti-Semitism!

See some examples of the Arab Media's every day portrayal of Jews:
http://www.adl.org/cartoon_campaign/default_slide_show.asp

Donate now:



https://secure2.convio.net/adl/site/Donation?ACTION=SHOW_DONATION_OPTIONS&CAMPAIGN_ID=1581&JServSessionIdr011=ce6i9roim1.app14a

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:53 AM
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1. right-- Israelis killing Palestinians and occupying their land...
...have nothing to do with it. It's just knee-jerk anti-semitism. Right....
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:39 PM
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36. there's a right way and a wrong way
why don't you address the arab media propaganda directly instead of trying to rationalize it.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:54 AM
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2. What about the Nuke hypocrisy?

I guess they don't want to go there do they?

IT's okay for Isreal to have a bunch of nukes but don't let them damn ragheads get one!!!!

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:56 AM
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4. Do you think there would be an Israel if they didn't have nukes?
They've gone this long without using them, haven't they?

I guess anything that gets rid of the last Jews on Earth is okay with you?

Welcome to my ignore list.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:59 AM
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6. That wasn't the point
but I guess you see what you want to see.

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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:05 PM
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15. Six Day War and Yom Kippur War
In 1967 & 1973 they beat back the armies of four Arab countries, and look no nukes.

And no one is calling for the extermination of the Jews, they are just pointing out the double standards that are sometimes applied.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:07 PM
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17. As was Ian himself.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:22 PM
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28. "no one is calling for the extermination of the Jews"
Iran

depends how paranoically one interprets Hamas' rhetoric.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:06 PM
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16. Believe me, you won't be missing a damn thing.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:08 PM
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18. I have yet to see you post anything of substance
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:27 PM
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You don't learn, do you?
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:19 PM
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27. Only one nuke power ever used them.
Guess which one.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:55 AM
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3. Someone on my ignore list replied to my original post
If it's worth me seeing, someone please forward a copy?

Otherwise, I'd just assume not worry about it.

Thanks.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:58 AM
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5. they said this
1. right-- Israelis killing Palestinians and occupying their land have nothing to do with it. It's just knee-jerk anti-semitism. Right....
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:16 PM
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26. Israel is not above international law in hearts and minds of the goyim
the JEWS aren't the problem. it's an old faith with very much wisdom and surely the has the right to be seated somewhere.

The problem is the ISRAELIS behaving in palestine like the germans in Poland.

They have nukes but no NPT bindings. Israel as a state behaves is wants (and due to US can do so unpunished) which every other non-superpower/non-african nation would have to face heavy sanctions or invasion of UN/someones forces.

Using the Shoah as an excuse to be above all international rules... its getting old. Israel has transmuted from a victim state to a perpetrator state. Face it.

Palestinians who fight Israel get the same respect from me as do Iraqis fighting the US or the resistance fighters in Poland, France, Holland, Norway, Yugoslavia etc. in WWII

now you can ignore me.

nice day to you.



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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:05 PM
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14. Fugedddddddddaboudd it! Nuthin' goin' on but the rent.
:beer:
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:09 PM
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20. You are so predictable
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:59 AM
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7. Money is better spent giving to the ISM to help the People of Palestine
Let's work on this at the root.



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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:00 PM
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9. If you don't agree with him he puts you on his ignore list
:eyes:

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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:11 PM
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22. Oh
I never use that feature.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:27 PM
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29. I most honorably beg to disagree with you
but money is better spent giving to then to ISM.
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:00 PM
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8. Thanks IanDB1
Already the responses mix anti-semitism with anti-Zionism. It would be a shock if they didn't.

FYI all: The ADL fights ALL forms of racism. They have often come to the defense of others, African Americans as well as Muslims.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:01 PM
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11. ah, the old anti-semite card
that thing is so worn out

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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:09 PM
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19. anti-zionism is definitely not anti-Semitism
And then ADL ain't what she used to be.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:36 PM
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34. One can be anti-Zionist and anti-racist simultaneously.
In fact, some would argue that the two are inseparable. Is it racist to call for a secular, democratic and multi-national state of Palestine?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:00 PM
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10. Very true. The reality is that the papers in the middle east....
run this kind of Naziesque propaganda on a daily basis.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:02 PM
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12. donate now? - no!
I donate and work locally.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:02 PM
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13. Are we also allowed to post money drives for the ISM?
I am sure someone here can arrange that.
(You know, equal time and all that.)
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:29 PM
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30. I told you
. I am one of the DUers described by others as a Likudnik neocon, and I contribute to
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:30 PM
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31. I have agreed at times with some positions taken by the ADL.
For example, The ADL made clear that groups like the "Jewish Defense League" is a terrorist hate group.
There basically a consensus on that. You would think that was non-controversial.
http://www.adl.org/extremism/jdl_chron.asp

Unfortunately, some (a small and dwindling minority) of our DU brothers and sisters took a very different view, and defended the Jewish Defense League.

I hope for better in the future.
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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:10 PM
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21. No
The ADL is part of the problem, not part of the solution, as one can see by the OP.
And by all means call me a self-hating Jew or whatever you like. Free speech and all that.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:14 PM
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23. Many years ago the ADL actually did good some things
But you are correct, those days are gone.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:33 PM
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32. ADL peacefully and successfully integrated the public schools
in my home town and stopped "block busting" - and that was a racist DEMOCRATIC mayor who fought school integration.

Mayor Peter F. Flaherty, racist, anti-gay, anti-choice DEMOCRAT
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:38 PM
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35. You don't sound self-hating.
Plenty of Jewish people don't support many of the things the ADL does. When they attack nazis, I think it's fine. When they surveil progressives and transfer intelligence to reactioanry regimes, I think they are worse than worthless.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:14 PM
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24. This ADL advertisement has been posted in clear violation of forum rules.
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 12:15 PM by Tom Joad
Please read them.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:34 PM
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33. You would be much more persuasive
if you tried -- you have moved me to a much more pro-Zionist stand.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:15 PM
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25. no thanks
i don`t donate to tribal religous wars.
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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:42 PM
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37. Locking per I/P Guidelines
When posting in Israeli/Palestinian Affairs Forum, do not embed graphics or photographs of any kind into your messages.

Thank you.

Undergroundrailroad
DU Moderator
Israeli/Palestinian Affairs Forum
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