Arafat condemns Israeli government's decision to expel him

[Darranar]

GAZA, Sept. 13 (Xinhuanet) -- Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat denounced on Saturday the Israeli security cabinet's decision to expel him out of the Palestinian territories and consider him "an obstacle for peace."

Arafat told reporters at his headquarters in the West Bank town of Ramallah that he considers the Israeli decision to expel him out of the Palestinian territories "is a step to undermine the peace process and the Palestinian National Authority (PNA)."

During a meeting with a number of Arab and foreign diplomats that represent their countries in the Palestinian territories at his office in Ramallah, Arafat informed them that the Palestinians are facing the hardest situation ever in the peace process.

"This is the hardest moment in the peace process that we are facing. It has nothing to do with me and the Israeli threats, it has something to do with deleting the PNA," Arafat told the diplomats.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2003-09/14/content_1080055.htm

[LastDemInIdaho]

1. What a surprize

Next words we'll hear is that arafat supports suicide bombers.

[Darranar]

2. Uh, I don't get it...

How does Arafat condemning Israel's decision to expel him imply that Arafat supports suicide bombers?

[Equinox]

3. I'm wondering the same thing.

n/t

[LastDemInIdaho]

4. In other words...

it's a given.

[Darranar]

5. It's a given that Arafat supports suicide bombers?

Evidence, please?

[LastDemInIdaho]

10. His latest calls for Martyrs is enoug proof for me

Hopefully if there is to be another martyr it is he.

[Darranar]

12. Israel was threatening him...

he indicated that if they came to him, he would resist - simply in a flashy fashion.

[LastDemInIdaho]

14. Defend arafat all you wish

He remains a terrorist supporter.

[Darranar]

15. Evidence?

n/t

[Aidoneus]

17. don't stand in the way of convictions..

they may be more dangerous enemies to truth than lies, but they tend to be unshakeable and incomprehending to any contrary view.

[LastDemInIdaho]

18. The fact he allows terrorists to sleep in his tent is enough

He refuses to eliminate the hamas and other terrorists among him.

[Darranar]

19. That doesn't mean that he supports them...

it means that he tolerates them - a different matter entirely. You say that he supports them: evidence?

[LastDemInIdaho]

22. Tolerating terrorists equals support in my mind

SO sorry you can't understand this fact.

[Darranar]

23. I disagree...

If you support terrorists, you actively aid them. Arafat does not.

[Muddleoftheroad]

26. And that arms shipment was?

What exactly?

[Darranar]

27. Link, please?

I need to refresh my memory, though I believe i've heard the story before.

[newyorican]

6. The only "given"

is the propensity of some misguided partisan to inject "suicide-bombing" into every possible conversation.

I wonder if there is a clinical name for this syndrome?

[Scurrilous]

7. Recurrent Disruption.

n/t

[LastDemInIdaho]

11. arafat and "suicide bomber" are tightly coupled

The clinical term for suicide bomb syndrome is murderous insanity.

Unlike some I refuse to accept targeting Jews as excusable. Arafat supports it and he must crack down or leave.

[Darranar]

13. How do you know that he supports them?

All you've given me so far is a pieace of junk that doesn't indicate anything of worth. I think I'll need more evidence than that.

[LastDemInIdaho]

20. He lets the terrorists run amok under his authority

Refusing to dismantle terrorist nests under his leadership proves his guilt. He must crack down or leave.

[Darranar]

21. See my post above. n/t

n/t

[newyorican]

16. That's not the only thing "tightly coupled"

Your head and your ass, maybe?

[Aidoneus]

8. eh.. his disagreement pretty much goes without saying

:)

pretty much all other world leaders condemned it, might as well not leave out his opinion on his hypothetical expulsion/execution.

...Arafat told reporters at his headquarters in the West Bank town of Ramallah that he considers the Israeli decision to expel him out of the Palestinian territories "is a step to undermine the peace process and the Palestinian National Authority (PNA)."...

There's one sharp cookie, nothing gets by him.. half of the GOI's actions of the last decade fits under that statement. I figure if one stubby hair on his chin is harmed, it's open season on Sharon, assuming the hit on Sheikh Yassin wasn't enough for that.

This is all just bluff and bullshit from Israel anyway, rather improvised and desperate at that. It's all for show--why announce it in advance and let the protest gather? Having blamed everything under the sun on a guy they've besieged for months, they're trapped in their own spin and have to follow this self-deluded nonsense to its logical conclusion. But a good whipping boy like Yasir is hard to come by and a terrible thing to waste (a set of propaganda cliches and scripts for both camps that have taken decades of dedicated effort to perfect!).. Of course, that doesn't stop the usual sources from giving the same silly demonizing treatment to anyone else considered to be propped up as figurehead/warden, everything short of a Palestinian Zionist in control of their "state" seems to just never be good enough.

The assumption is really putting the cart before the horse though, assuming that the rebellious spirit of the Palestinian people originates from its leaders, and not the opposite--that many of its leaders are in fact useful to Israel in channeling and stifling this natural revolutionary energy.. but I guess that's really too deep for a bunch of career politicians, nationalist ideologues, and their disturbing cheerleaders to fathom.

It seems strange to me that Arafat here still refers to a "peace process"--he can look at the bashed up piles of rubble that used to be his "compound" and think there's a political solution aside from further suppression and displacing still at work here? Likud already decided among themselves that there'd never be a Palestinian "state" west of the Jordan (Sharon however seems to be in favour of a "state-ish sort of thing" that makes the Bantustans look great by comparison, maybe his vision wins the day instead and it'll be trumpeted as generous, great, necessary, humane and noble by the trained parrots), Labour "heroes" like Peres & Barak are just discredited hypocrites with falsified pasts.. Seeing as how everything done under the cover of the "peace process" has just been one disaster after another for the Palestinian people, I would think that even a professional panderer like Arafat would catch on to what the term means and what the international political structures can offer here--accomidating to this consistant formula for submission is more vulgar than every epitaph thrown at him by Israeli fanatics.

(a few non-aired ventings from other threads lately compressed into one place here..)

[Darranar]

9. They don't have much of a choice...

it appears that Israel must kill him or expel him - or hesitate until the decision is overturned.

[Aidoneus]

24. True, they haven't much of a choice here..

except wait for the next thing to happen and then react to that, whatever it is. The way I see it, the decision is just buying time with a situation that "needed" some sort of reaction when both camps are really just flying blind and reacting to one another, trying to appear like they aren't really powerless to control what's going on.

In general, it seems that the crazy notion that bayonets aren't good for sitting hasn't yet registered with the Israeli politicians/military planners/media commentators/fan club, thus the reactions to their policy aren't seen as having any reason directly connected with this policy, but rather borne from an insidious conspiracy--ie Arafat and his superhuman powers, the silly idea that "cutting off the head" will accomplish anything aside from growing seven more (I would have hoped they learned at least that much from their failed adventure in Lebanon, but it appears not).

I think if they really had something in mind for Arafat it would not be announced until after it was done. This here allows Israeli fans to blow off steam and spout off their death fantasies and rant about their pet demon-scapegoat, threats made to appease an increasingly discontent fanbase but in a context with which nothing can really come of them. Unless, of course, the situation being made exponentially worse without bringing the hyped benefit is the intended result here, then I could see Arafat being dragged away or shot. :shrug:

[bemildred]

25. Bravo.