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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:54 PM
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Palestinians storm U.N. compound in Gaza City
Palestinian gunmen stormed the main United Nations compound in Gaza City on Sunday, witnesses said, part of a protest against Israel's bombing of building in southern Lebanon that killed around 60 people.

The assault followed a demonstration by members of the Islamic Jihad militant group in the streets of Gaza. The U.N. confirmed its compound had been broken into.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14107035/
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:55 PM
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1. As I said in the GD forum...
There go those peace-loving Palestinians again, petitioning the UN for consideration.

:sarcasm:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:58 PM
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5. I think they are beyond begging to be treated with dignity.
Oh by the way:

"The assault followed a demonstration by members of the Islamic Jihad militant group in the streets of Gaza. The U.N. confirmed its compound had been broken into. Witnesses said there was damage but there were no immediate reports of injuries."

If your intention was to downplay the Qana Atrocity by playing up the outrage throughout the muslim world, you will have to wait for something a bit more vile before it can take the focus off of what Israel has done.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:00 PM
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6. Actually, I'm pretty bright and
can do two things at once. I didn't mention Qana did I? Just another day in the Gaza Strip...just think...if Arafat hadn't expropriated (read: stolen) all that money for himself, maybe they'd have industry and an infrastructure.

But no...it's just too easy to blame Israel for everything, including the blue dress....
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:01 PM
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30. It's MONICA! She's to blame for Israel's rampant militarism
just as she is to blame for ours!

Goddamn her! :sarcasm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:59 PM
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29. Yes, you've said this ad nauseum.
Do you think your audience is deaf or stupid?

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:56 PM
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34. Depends...
which do you prefer?\

Since you asked..
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:56 PM
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35. Yes, and as if the Israelis
are anywhere near "peace-loving" as well. And since begging and protests haven't done shit-squat for Palestinians and Lebanese, no one should be surprised at this kind of desperation.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:45 PM
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36. Have you seen this
http://brasscheck.com/videos/middleeast/me1.html
This was a big adjustment in my perception of reality on the subject.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:55 PM
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2. palestinians are feeling neglected
gotta get back into those headlines.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:57 PM
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3. They are neglected
Nobody will save them from Israeli aggression and oppression. It's a tragedy.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:18 PM
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12. like the palestinian family killed on a gaza beach.?
overlooked was the fact it was a palestinian land mine.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:39 PM
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25. Wrong.
Get thee to I/P, read a few threads on this matter, and educate yourself. The IDF abandoned the Single-Mine theory.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 04:21 PM
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33. are you actually agreeing with the IDF?
eom
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:57 PM
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4. Neglected is right...Truer words never spoken...
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 01:58 PM by PCIntern
they can disrupt and burn with the best of them. Would that they had sent a delegation to discuss...but No, they had to go crazy on those who ostensibly have the weight to assist them.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:05 PM
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8. Ostensibly?
The UN is watching Israel level a country that didn't declare any hostility towards it. Gaza is similarly being pounded from the air by weapons it can't possibly defend itself from, ostensiby because of a soldier being kidnapped there. Disrupting and burning pales in comparison with shooting people like fish in a barrel.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:08 PM
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9. "palestinians are feeling neglected"
Not by the IDF. They're still showing the Palestinians how much they love them.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x140245

"The Israel Defense Forces has killed 97 people in the Gaza Strip since the fighting began in Lebanon. Most of them were armed, and the rest were civilians - children, women, men, the elderly. The large number of fatalities suggests the IDF is engaged in indiscriminate killing under the cover of the war in the north."



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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:09 PM
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10. you are quoting a Fatah activist
I'm sure you wanted to make that clear to the rest of us but just plain forgot...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:14 PM
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11. No I'm not...
...I'm quoting Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondent.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:22 PM
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13. Yes you are...
read your link. The reporter is quoting the Fatah activist.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:46 PM
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27. Nope...
..reread the original thread I posted in I/P and which I excerpted here. You'll see that the snippet I posted is not a quote from a Fatah Activist. If it was a quote it would be in quotation marks in the body of the original article.

The quotation marks you see in my snippet were put there by me because DU rules require that you make your snippet distinct and seperate from any comments you place in the post. Most posters here seperate the snippet from the comment by using quotation marks.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:45 PM
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26. OK, we'll quote the BBC from today
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:48 PM
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28. Omigod, we're quoting Fatah ACTIVISTS!
This must stop, immediately! What? We're reading broadly and processing information?

Traitors!

And, who forgot to cut those people's tongues out? :sarcasm:

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:02 PM
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7. WOW! Some video...
'begging for dignity' indeed...
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:37 PM
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14. Palestinians storm U.N. compound in Gaza City
GAZA - Palestinian gunmen stormed the main United Nations compound in Gaza City on Sunday, witnesses said, part of a protest against Israel's bombing of building in southern Lebanon that killed around 60 people.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14107035/
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:37 PM
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15. If Palestinians, Israelis & Lebanese unite in common hatred of The U.N...
maybe there's hope for peace after all?

The United Nations has fucked all of them in so many different ways, so many different times.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:37 PM
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17. Not as many times as the United States has fucked the UN.
We tend to think of the UN as if it was ever really independent when in fact, we pretty much were the UN back in the day. If the UN survives this transitional period, it will be a miracle.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:37 PM
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18. I think most Gazans and Lebanese think the UN is run by the US and for
good reason. The US is on the securtiy council, so the US has veto power, therefore every Israeli action, no matter how extreme, is protected, and never sanctioned.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:38 PM
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22. And where is the effen Security Council?
Maybe I've always had an unrealistic idea of why it was formed and what it had the power to do.

It's ugly to have your idealizations shredded this way.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:38 PM
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20. America is a herd of bulls that has been set loose in multiple china shops
I think a new U.N. type organization will need to be built around a framework created at The Hague.

There should be plenty of war crime trials to keep them busy for decades.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:38 PM
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21. Yeah. I'd like to see the U.N. make it -- despite asshole criminals
like Bolton.

What an insult he is to the spirit of the thing.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:38 PM
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23. If you cut ten inches off Bolton's head, nobody would miss it. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:38 PM
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24. Maybe his barber.
Oh boy.

It must be scary to be some smaller nation and to watch this lumbering jackass, the US, smashing through your garden.

The only sort of good outcome may be the the NeoCons will lose whatever shred of credibility they've managed to keep. On the other hand, how would we know, they own the media.

Just have to keep getting the word out, any way we can.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:37 PM
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16. Great, one-up-manship
between rival groups.

They'll be fistfights around the Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon as to whose raid on the UN was first, bigger, badder, and more effective.

The usual JI paranoia and communal thinking.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:37 PM
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19. Or they are really really pissed about what is happening.
How would you feel right now if you were a palestinian or a resident of south Lebanon? What happened at Qana is going to have repercussions.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:41 PM
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32. Sure, they're pissed.
But it doesn't mean it wasn't copycat ransacking. Esp. when it comes to Gaza where the UN's been a large employer of Palestinians and supported a large portion of the population for years.

The big complaint in Lebanon is that it hasn't taken sides and hasn't stopped the violence (which amounts to about the same thing, IMHO).

The attack in Gaza seems less well motivated than the one in Beirut, even if it was a bunch of JIhadniki.
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God Almighty Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 03:18 PM
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31. Can anyone blame them? The U.S. is getting Israel to kill their children
I think the Palestinians are showing a lot of restraint.
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