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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:42 PM
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Shalom tells UN General Assembly to stop discrediting Israel
Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom told the United Nations General Assembly on Thursday night that it "must reform" and criticized its anti-Israel "hostility."

Shalom also complained that Syria and Iran, which belong to the UN, are "accomplices in the acts of terror" because they sponsor
extremist groups and demanded that they be "held accountable for their crimes."

The General Assembly must "move away from its partisan hostility that has taken over its Middle East agenda," Shalom said in his 20-minute speech.
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http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/344427.html

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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:05 PM
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1. This ain't the US congress
Take it elsewhere, Occupation Boy.
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LastDemInIdaho Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:14 PM
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5. The occupation that needs addressed is the occupation of PA terrorists
Their daily job of targeting innocent Israelis is about to be terminated.
The humanity branch of the UN is fed up with turning a blind eye to the terror commited by arafat and his henchmen.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 08:07 AM
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15. Do you bother reading anything here at DU?
I've seen it be explained to you many times now that Arafat is not the leader of Hamas, yet you continue to repeat the same thing over and over despite being soundly refuted each time....

And cracking open a dictionary might help you out too, though I suspect the complete misuse of the word occupation was an attempt to continue yr nonstop posts that go on about suicide bombings, suicide bombings and suicide bombings. The only occupation that's happening is that of Israel occupying territory that doesn't belong to it...

Violet...
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 08:56 AM
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18. Arafathead
Is leader of the Palestinian people. He is responsible for their actions when he does nothing to stop them. (And that's at the very minimum. Personally, I think Arafat complicit in the actions of terror.)
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 09:03 AM
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19. So you admit Sharon is a terrorist?
After all, the same applies to him and acts of terrorism from Israelis. I pointed out in my post that Arafat is NOT the leader of Hamas. If you want to dispute that using facts, try yr hardest...

Violet...
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:17 AM
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10. it's more like the...
Academy of Delegates for Kleptocrats and Madmen...
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 07:52 AM
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14. Most UN delegates are from non-dictatorships
Gradually more democratic delegates has been a feature since 1945.
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:05 PM
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2. Shalom sounds like a war criminal to me
Where can we cuff him and stuiff him
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LastDemInIdaho Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:10 PM
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4. What "we" are you referring to?
When we finally cuff and stuff arafat then we'll talk.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 01:59 AM
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11. Didn't you mean Arafat?
Mmmm, mmm?
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:50 AM
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12. No way
Your quick judgment lacks evidence and a trial.

:thumbsdown:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 08:10 AM
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16. Lacking evidence and a trial...
Hey, that sounds exactly like what the IDF do with their extrajudicial killings!

Violet...
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 09:27 AM
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21. Only 50%
As the name implies, no trial is conducted for the terrorists who flaunt their death-wish, and commit endless torture and inflict unspeakable pain on innocent human beings of every age and race.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 09:40 AM
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23. I forgot...
I must remember that we MUST believe the IDF without question and that they only assassinate *proven* terrorists. Nah. They've got a track record of dishonesty and have been known in the past to murder moderate Palestinians. I'll leave the blind belief to others...

Violet...
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LastDemInIdaho Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:08 PM
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3. It's about time
Why the UN has sided with the suicide bombers has always disturbed me.
The plain and simple fact that terrorist based nations get a warm seat at the table of respectable nations is beyond my comprehension.

Israel has been extremly patient in dealing with those that want her pushed into the sea. It's time to stop allowing terror to set the course of the UN.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:15 PM
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6. They "side" with them so much that they condemn them...
Oh, I forgot. Siding with the Palestinians = siding with the suicide bombings.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:16 PM
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7. The Arab world controls the oil
As much as we complain about * kowtowing to them, we never seem to criticize the corrupt nations that do just the same on their own and in the UN.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:24 PM
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8. A "stunning" piece of diplomacy, there.
Or maybe pole-axed is the word.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 08:33 AM
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17. Maybe someone should tell that guy...
..to try dismantling the settlements and moving back to the pre-67 borders if he's so worried about Israel being 'discredited'. That would take most, if not all of the heat off Israel. He seems to be bitching about the General Assembly doing exactly what it was set up to do, which was to be a forum where every nation has a chance to be heard as equals. Which means that the GA is always real busy putting out a flurry of resolutions that no-one takes any notice of or really needs to...

I found the index of resolutions from 2002. No wonder he's pissed off. How dare that collection of rabble even dare to talk about the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and then top off that sacrilege by being concerned about the situation of Palestinian children!! Clearly it's obvious by such non-UN type 'concerns' that the UN wants nothing more than to push Israel into the sea and I'm sure in the 58th session there'll be a GA resolution titled 'Establishment of an Israel-free zone in the region of the Middle East' ;)

Bastards! They dared to have resolutions concerning The Congo! When will they learn their lesson and stop trying to discredit everything but the kitchen sink!

Violet...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:25 AM
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27. Feeling feisty today Violet?
What I mean is: I thought diplomats were supposed to be,
you know, diplomatic?

This story is kind of funny when contrasted with the troops
smashing their way through the UNRWA hospital and making all
the medical people assume the position:

http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=16283
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:48 PM
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9. Notice the call on Syria and Iran. Anyone care to guess which
country had a great hand in writing PNAC's plan for world domination and war?? As PNAC's allies, Likud/AIPAC/JINSA/JDL, push Bush to go to the next step in the plan (Iran & Syria), it'll be interesting to see how low he'll go in pandering to Likud loving fascists.
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UserNamesAreFree Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 06:39 AM
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13. Israel should be condemned
when their actions warrant it. But if they're held to a different standard, they've got a beef.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 09:21 AM
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20. The General Assembly
is a representative body. If the vote is 133-4 that does not mean that the UN is biased against Israel.
It means that 97% of the world opposes the actions of the Israeli government.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 09:32 AM
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22. Minus abstentions
that reduces your tally. But haven't we gone far enough with the propaganda? Are all those resolutions really necessary, when they are just based on hear-say?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 09:42 AM
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24. Hearsay?
So the occupation of territory that doesn't belong to it and the human rights violations carried out towards the Palestinians are nothing but hearsay? Damn, and all this time I've been thinking it's for real!! ;)

Violet...
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 09:43 AM
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25. I think she's talking about expelling/killing Arafat...
of course, taht isn't hearsay either - the Israeli cabinet voted to do so.
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UserNamesAreFree Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 09:59 AM
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26. A couple possibilities
Seems the killing Arafat talk started soon after a particularly devastating suicide bombing. It could have been to appease an Israeli public demanding to do something, anything. Also possible Israel is softening world opinion before actually doing it. After the possibility is laid out and kicked around a while, the act tiself would be less of a shock to the world community. Time will tell.
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-03 04:59 AM
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28. Foreign Minister Shalom
sounds like a bossy guy to me, and tiny Israel seems to want to tell the whole world what to do.
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