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pelsar
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Mon Jan-15-07 06:24 AM Original message |
The battle within |
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Shaktimaan
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Mon Jan-15-07 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. This story is so depressing. |
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pelsar
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Mon Jan-15-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. the really sad part is.... |
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Meshuga
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Mon Jan-15-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. A sad article... |
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idontwantaname
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. where indeed... |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 12:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. not according to many palestinians..... |
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idontwantaname
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Fri Jan-19-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. and what about the west bank? |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 12:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. westbank is "on hold" |
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idontwantaname
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Fri Jan-19-07 12:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. no kassams from the west bank so stop making up stories to justify |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Zakaria Zubeidi, chief of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Jenin |
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newyorican
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Fri Jan-19-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The IDF has chased out most of the ISM... |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 02:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. not up to date? |
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idontwantaname
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Sun Jan-21-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. of course theres concern over gaza |
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pelsar
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Mon Jan-22-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. ISMs website has no mention of internal gaza violence... |
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idontwantaname
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Mon Jan-22-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. the point of ism |
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pelsar
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Mon Jan-22-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. human rights abuses AND the occupation... |
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idontwantaname
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Mon Jan-22-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Laila El-Haddad's blog |
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pelsar
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Tue Jan-23-07 03:09 AM Response to Reply #49 |
63. i read her..... |
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idontwantaname
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Tue Jan-23-07 06:52 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. listen to the interview |
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pelsar
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Tue Jan-23-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. i tried...before |
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Violet_Crumble
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Tue Jan-23-07 05:05 AM Response to Reply #48 |
67. That's not what you were arguing with me further down the thread... |
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pelsar
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Tue Jan-23-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. human rights are universal... |
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Violet_Crumble
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Fri Jan-19-07 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
12. Selective outrage? |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. yes it is selective.... |
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Violet_Crumble
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Fri Jan-19-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Pelsar, could you respond to the body of my post, not just the title? |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. the answer..... |
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Violet_Crumble
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Fri Jan-19-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. "Refreshing"?? |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. i hold a single standard... |
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Violet_Crumble
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Fri Jan-19-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It's not about different standards or about culture... |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. i dont differentiate... |
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Shaktimaan
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Fri Jan-19-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Israel is held to a higher standard because they should be. |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. so the real question is... |
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Violet_Crumble
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Fri Jan-19-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Try reading my last reply to you... |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. it took me a couple of readings.... |
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Violet_Crumble
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Fri Jan-19-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Where did I say I hold Israel to a higher standard? I didn't... |
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pelsar
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Fri Jan-19-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. expecting more..... |
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Shaktimaan
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Sun Jan-21-07 06:25 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. So then, WHO are the terrorist groups |
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Violet_Crumble
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Sun Jan-21-07 07:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. No, I am not saying that... |
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Shaktimaan
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Sun Jan-21-07 07:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No, I understand what you are saying. |
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Violet_Crumble
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Sun Jan-21-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Okay... |
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pelsar
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Sun Jan-21-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I'm glad for the clarification....its clear now... |
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idontwantaname
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Sun Jan-21-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. if i were the pilot |
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Shaktimaan
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Sun Jan-21-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. You're assuming a third, fictional possibility that doesn't have a real world equivalent. |
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idontwantaname
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Sun Jan-21-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. tut-tut |
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Shaktimaan
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Sun Jan-21-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. you are presupposing that there is no rational reason for Israel's actions. |
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idontwantaname
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Mon Jan-22-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. dont give yourself too much credit or get too far ahead of yourself |
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pelsar
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Mon Jan-22-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. doesnt work.... |
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idontwantaname
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Mon Jan-22-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. oh yeah, and violent methods of dispersal work great! duh. |
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pelsar
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Mon Jan-22-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. yes they have stated their motives... |
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idontwantaname
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Mon Jan-22-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. so whats the solution? |
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Shaktimaan
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Mon Jan-22-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Wow, that's some overview of the situation. |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Mon Jan-22-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. UN report: “Israel violated all articles of Crossings agreement” |
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Shaktimaan
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Mon Jan-22-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Huh, interesting. |
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idontwantaname
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Mon Jan-22-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. its all a chess game and |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Mon Jan-22-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. frankly, I agree that there is a very big security issue for Israel and an even |
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idontwantaname
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Mon Jan-22-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. i dont hesitate to say |
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Shaktimaan
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Mon Jan-22-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. LOL. You're funny. |
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idontwantaname
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Mon Jan-22-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. once. how about yourself? |
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Shaktimaan
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Mon Jan-22-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. A few times. |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Jan-23-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Pistolese (of EU) urges Israel to ease restrictions on Egypt-Gaza crossing |
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Violet_Crumble
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Mon Jan-22-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
39. There's too many 'MAYs' in that question... |
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pelsar
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Mon Jan-22-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Israeli pilots have not fired in the past |
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pelsar
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Sun Jan-21-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. your probably not going to answer my #30 post...... |
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Violet_Crumble
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Mon Jan-22-07 07:33 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. I did answer it... |
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pelsar
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Mon Jan-22-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. actually we havent... |
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idontwantaname
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Mon Jan-22-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. not about nationality. its about probablility |
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pelsar
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Tue Jan-23-07 03:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. chances and risk |
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Shaktimaan
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Tue Jan-23-07 08:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Would it? |
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pelsar
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Mon Jan-22-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. i apologise if i'm "pressing to hard" |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Mon Jan-22-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. in 2006 -- 151 Palestinian Children and 2 Israeli Children were killed in |
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pelsar
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Tue Jan-23-07 03:05 AM Response to Reply #51 |
62. thats a cop out.... |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Jan-23-07 03:24 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I believe a Kassam rocket has very little chance of hitting those children |
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pelsar
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Tue Jan-23-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. see 65.... |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Jan-23-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I think B'tselem has a reasonable and measured position on this issue |
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pelsar
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Tue Jan-23-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. no it doesnt answer... |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Jan-23-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. sorry to disappoint you Mr. Pelsar |
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pelsar
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Tue Jan-23-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. its not that they are less important... |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Jan-23-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. my fundamental critique is not the individual combatants who have been |
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