Barghouti Uses Closing Arguments at Murder Trial to Condemn Israel

[Herschel]

Palestinian leader Marwan Barghouti used his closing arguments at his murder trial in Tel Aviv to defend the Palestinian uprising and condemn Israel.

Mr. Barghouti says the Palestinian intifada, or uprising, is a justified reaction to what he called Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

He is on trial on 26 counts of alleged murder, after playing a leading role in orchestrating the Palestinian rebellion against Israel.

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http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=1D549AB1-91BD-4E5D-85175E431937B96F

Be done with him.

[drewb]

1. What do you think? Firing Squad or Drawn and Quartered???

:crazy:

[LastDemInIdaho]

23. Let him live

Tied up to a public post where the families of those he murdered can
spit and urinate upon him daily. There is no punishment cruel enough for those that target the lives of innocents.

[mmm]

2. I think he meant to condemn Zionists, as we all should.

[Jim Sagle]

3. Booooo!!!!!!!! Zionism RAWWWWWWWWWKS!!!!!!!!

[Cassandra]

27. And your definition of Zionists is?

Please explain.

[Darranar]

28. I am curious about this too, Cassandra...

Definitions of Zionism can have wide variations depending on whom you're talking to.

[MariMayans]

4. brave man..

The "evidence" against him was laughable and if he had wanted to defend himself he could have made them look absolutely horrible in the court of world opinion but he stuck with his guns and his premise that it is illegal to try him in an Israeli court (which it is).

[Jim Sagle]

5. Horseshit.

[Darranar]

6. A bit more substance, please?

Or am I asking too much?

[bemildred]

19. Elephantshit.

That should be a bit more.

[MariMayans]

20. that would be the substance of the prosectution

and I'm sure the verdict will come back made of exactly the same biomass.

[bemildred]

21. Well, I thought it would be a bit more "substance", anyway.

Just trying to help Darranar out.

[Darranar]

25. LOL!

n/t

[Cassandra]

26. I don't often get a good laugh on I/P

Thanks!

[Equinox]

40. LMAO.........................................

[Herschel]

11. You consider him a brave man

Very interesting for you.

[Darranar]

12. Well, he's worked for peace...

defied Israel, and at the same time stated his lack of support for the killing of innocent people.

How is that not brave?

[Herschel]

14. I urge caution

You would not want to find yourself calling him a brave man only to soon learn he is convicted of these horrendous crimes.

[Darranar]

15. I'm not convinced in the slightest that he's guilty of this...

it seems to me that isarel is striking at a potential replacement to Arafat who will be more accepted among the international community and more willing to make real peace with Israel.

[sushi]

29. I was going to say that!

That Marwan Barghouti could be a Palestinian leader who is acceptable to the international community. Plus the fact that he can talk to the Jews in their own language. This cannot please Israel's leaders.

[Equinox]

41. Just because he's convicted doesn't make it true...

especially where he's being tried.

But you knew that.

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[bemildred]

7. Same story, different take:

TEL AVIV, Sept. 29 - Speaking in near-perfect Hebrew,
Palestinian uprising leader Marwan Barghouthi closed his
trial in Israel on murder charges on Monday with a demand
for independence for his people as the price of peace.
''We are a people like all other people. We want freedom and a
state just like the Israelis,'' said Barghouthi, a senior figure in Yasser
Arafat's Fatah faction accused of orchestrating gun ambushes and
suicide bombings that killed 26 people.
''Israel must decide: either it allows for a (Palestinian) state
alongside it, or it becomes a state for two peoples,'' he said in an
hour-long closing argument in the language he learned in jail.
Barghouthi, 43, denies the charges while supporting a
three-year-old Palestinian uprising in the West Bank and Gaza Strip,
which Israel captured in the 1967 Middle East war.

MSNBC

[Herschel]

8. Perhaps his eloquent speech

would be better heard if he had not orchestrated the deaths of 26 people. Oh, my.

[Darranar]

10. What evidence is there against him?

Why do I have my doubts about the truth of it?

[Herschel]

13. So you cast your lot

with Marwan Barghouti.

[Darranar]

16. Well?

Do you have an answer?

[Forkboy]

32. Note Darranar

that once again one of your questions goes unanswered.Instead you get the guilt by association attempt.

Of course I'd rather throw my lot in with Marwan that Sharon :shrug:

[Darranar]

33. I would too...

Barghouti has several good ideas, while Sharon is clearly a war criminal. Even if this junk is true (about which I am extremely skeptical) Marwan would be responsilbe for less innocent deaths then the despicable Ariel.

[Herschel]

35. How many innocent deaths must occur

before you find it unacceptable?

[Darranar]

36. Where's the evidence for this?

Barghouti is being tried on doubtful evidence, while Sharon, who is responsible for more innocent deaths with more evidence supporting the fact that he was, has never been tried in court.

[Equinox]

42. I believe Sharon was tried in an Israeli court...

and if I'm not mistaken, resigned as Defense Minister as a result.

[Forkboy]

45. I'm already past that point Herschel

the real question is when will you find it all unacceptable.

[Herschel]

37. Daranarr implies Barghouti is

wrongly accused. Then you object to my saying Daranarr has cast his lot with Barghouti as "guilt by association". It cannot be both.

[bemildred]

39. Cast your lot seems a bit strong.

He's just questioning the evidence against him.
He didn't sign up for his election campaign or anything.

[MariMayans]

22. skeptisism..

It would do you well to grow some. It's served me incredibly well and lately made me seem someone with absolutely psychic powers. All you need to do is start thinking critically and start with the basis that politcians are lying and bare minimum you are right about half the time.

[Darranar]

9. AH! A sweet breath of unbiased, un-propaganda modified air!

THANK YOU!

Good for Barghouti.

[bemildred]

18. I dunno if I'd go that far,

but they stuck in some more interesting bits.
Given that the entire thing seems to be a media
circus conducted for poltical and public relations
purposes, I figure we ought to at least get to see
the unabridged version.

[Darranar]

24. Well, compared to some of the other junk...

that's posted here, it is fresh air.

[Scurrilous]

17. The case against Marwan Barghouti.

http://www.freebarghouti.org/case.html

"Israelis must abandon the myth that it is possible to have peace and occupation at the same time, that peaceful coexistence is possible between slave and master."

[sushi]

30. Can't argue

with that. Can't have peace and occupation at the same time.

[number6]

31. no justice - no peace.

..

[Jim Sagle]

34. You've got that exactly backwards.

No peace, no justice. P.E.R.I.O.D.

[sushi]

38. Stop and think

There can only be peace between people when there is justice. YOU have got it backwards.

[Equinox]

44. There were no suicide bombings from 67 to the late 80's

then there was a period of time in the 90's with no suicide bombings (I can't remember the exact figures), yet no justice was given. In fact, Israel increased the settlement project exponentially.

Jim, it is you that has it backwards. The Palestinians keep grabbing their ankles and the GOI (Labor and Likud) keep thrusting deeper.