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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:26 AM
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Hamas: We'll execute Fatah leaders
Hamas gunmen on Thursday afternoon captured the second of four major Fatah command centers in Gaza City, planting the group's green flag on the roof of the intelligence services building. Earlier in the day Hamas seized control of the the Palestinian Preventive Security headquarters in Gaza, reportedly executing witnesses and several defeated Fatah members. At least 10 people were killed.

Meanwhile a large explosion rocked Gaza City as Fatah forces abandoned a security post and blew it up as they left, saying they would rather destory the post than leave it for Hamas.

Hamas took over vehicles and weapons in the Preventive Security compound, one of the Palestinian Authority's enduring symbols in the Strip. Strongly identified with Fatah leader Mohammed Dahlan, the organization has even cooperated with Israel in the past on security issues.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3412813,00.html
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:49 AM
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1. Hamas says "executed" top Fatah militant in Gaza
GAZA, June 14 (Reuters) - Hamas's armed wing said its gunmen executed on Thursday a leading Fatah militant who had topped their wanted list of figures from President Mahmoud Abbas's faction in the Gaza Strip.

The Izz el-Deen al-Qassam brigades of Hamas said in a statement it "executed the collaborator Samih al-Madhoun", a head of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Gaza. There was no immediate comment from Fatah, to which the Brigades belong.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L14740780.htm
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:59 AM
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2. Palestinian Pinochet making his move?
By: Tony Karon
2007-05-26

There's something a little misleading in the media reports that routinely describe the fighting in Gaza as pitting Hamas against Fatah forces or security personnel "loyal to President Mahmoud Abbas." That characterization suggests somehow that this catastrophic civil war that has killed more than 25 Palestinians since Sunday is a showdown between Abbas and the Hamas leadership -- which simply isn't true, although such a showdown would certainly conform to the desires of those running the White House Middle East policy.

The Fatah gunmen who are reported to have initiated the breakdown of the Palestinian unity government and provoked the latest fighting may profess fealty to President Abbas, but it's not from him that they get their orders. The leader to whom they answer is Mohammed Dahlan, the Gaza warlord who has long been Washington's anointed favorite to play the role of a Palestinian Pinochet. And while Dahlan is formally subordinate to Abbas, whom he supposedly serves as National Security Adviser, nobody believes that Dahlan answers to Abba s — in fact, it was suggested at the time that Abbas appointed Dahlan only under pressure from Washington, which was irked by the Palestinian Authority president's decision to join a unity government with Hamas.

If Dahlan takes orders from anyone at all, it's certainly not from Abbas. Abbas has long recognized the democratic legitimacy and popularity of Hamas, and embraced the reality that no peace process is possible unless the Islamists are given the place in the Palestinian power structure that their popular support necessitates. He has always favored negotiation and cooperation with Hamas — much to the exasperation of the Bush Administration, and also of the Fatah warlords whose power of patronage was threatened by the Hamas election victory — and could see the logic of the unity government proposed by the Saudis even when Washington couldn't. Indeed, as the indispensable Robert Malley and Hussein Agha note, nothing has hurt Abbas's political standing as much as the misguided efforts of Washington to boost his standing in the hope of undermining the elected Hamas government.

Needless to say, only an administration as deluded about its ability to reorder Arab political realities in line with its own fantasies — and also, frankly, as utterly contemptuous of Arab life and of Arab democracy, empty sloganizing notwithstanding — as the current one has proved to be could imagine that the Palestinians could be starved, battered and manipulated into choosing a Washington-approved political leadership. Yet, that's exactly what the U.S. has attempted to do ever since Hamas won the last Palestinian election, imposing a financial and economic chokehold on an already distressed population, pouring money and arms into the forces under Dahlan's control, and eventually adapting itself to funnel monies only through Abbas, as if casting him in the role of a kind of quisling-provider would somehow burnish his appeal among Palestinian voters. (As I said, their contempt for Arab intelligence knows no bounds. )

http://www.arabamericannews.com/newsarticle.php?articleid=8685
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:00 AM
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3. Fatah elements on revenge rampage in the West Bank

Ramallah, 14 June - Gangs of armed and masked Fatah forces are on the rampage in several West Bank towns, destroying, burning and blowing up offices, homes and businesses belonging to the Hamas movement and to people seen as supporters of Hamas.

The rampage began after Mohammad Dahlan returned from Egypt, where he had undergone surgery, to the President's office in Ramallah.

http://www.arabmonitor.info/news/dettaglio.php?idnews=19364&lang=en
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:29 AM
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6. So Dahlan is now back (maybe)
Edited on Thu Jun-14-07 11:32 AM by barb162
I had seen nothing to date that he returned. But then again from some of the other things you posted here, he may be "whereabouts unknown."
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:44 AM
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8. I dunno. If I was him I would lie about my whereabouts anyway.
But he does seem to be central to what is going on, which is why I posted that stuff. There are some other bits I saw that might explain why some of the Fatah people are being executed, which I omitted because of the sources. Those were in the nature of Dahlan's Fatah people executing Hamas people by similar methods. But who is one to believe?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:02 AM
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4. Where in the world is Fatah's strongman Dahlan?
Jun. 13, 2007 23:07 | Updated Jun. 14, 2007 9:32

Much has been said over the past year about Muhammad Dahlan's role in the fighting between Fatah and Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
Hamas claims that Dahlan, a former Palestinian Authority security commander and a top Fatah leader, has been working with the US and Israel to undermine Hamas and remove it from power.

Unconfirmed reports about secret talks between Dahlan and American, European and Israeli security officials have appeared on a regular basis in Hamas-linked media outlets.

Tensions between Hamas and Dahlan climaxed late last year when the Islamic movement openly accused Dahlan of being behind a botched assassination attempt on the life of PA Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas.

Dahlan, who has repeatedly denied allegations that he was conspiring with Israel and the US to bring down the Hamas-led government, is reported to have escaped several attempts on his life in the past 18 months.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1181570269585&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:03 AM
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5. Fatah's Mohammed Dahlan may not return from his trip abroad
GAZA CITY — The ruling Hamas movement has been targeting the interests of Fatah security chief Mohammed Dahlan in the Gaza Strip.

Palestinian sources said Hamas forces have sought to damage Dahlan's interests and kill his allies to ensure that he does not return to the Gaza Strip. Dahlan has been abroad for more than a month and has been overseeing the training of Palestinian Authority forces in Cairo, Middle East Newsline reported.

"If Hamas has its way, Dahlan will have nothing in Gaza to come back to," a Palestinian source said. "He has already sent for his family, which means he is prepared for a long stay outside of Gaza."

Over the last two weeks, Hamas, employing automatic weapons, missiles and rocket-propelled grenades, has targeted Dahlan's aides and allies. They have included the heads of the Preventive Security Apparatus, a 3,000-member PA security agency founded by Dahlan and regarded as the most effective Fatah-aligned force.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/me_palestinians_06_13.asp
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:39 AM
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7. "...reportedly executing witnesses and several... Fatah members."
Witnesses too? It seems most of these Hamas fighters are wearing full head masks and you can't tell who they are anyway. So why kill witnesses in cold blood?

Charming. :sarcasm:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 12:37 PM
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9. Hamas rejects border force plan
Hamas has rejected the idea of an international force deployment along Gaza's border with Egypt, saying it would treat such a body as an occupying power.

A multinational force in Gaza was suggested to Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, on Tuesday by Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, and Ehud Olmert, Israel's prime minister.

"The movement would regard those forces as occupation forces no different to the Israeli occupation, regardless of their nationality," Sami Abu Zuhri, a Hamas official, said.

---

A senior member of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), the world's main Muslim body, also rejected the deployment of an international force.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/048B2FDF-B78C-4510-913B-1BC50BF038F3.htm
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 12:45 PM
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10. They already exucuted them in cold blood on the street.
Such nice people.

Israel should turn everything over to them asap.

:sarcasm:
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 12:56 PM
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11. Hamas hunts "collaborators" after Gaza rout
Source: Reuters

Hamas hunts "collaborators" after Gaza rout
14 Jun 2007 17:32:41 GMT
Source: Reuters

(Updates with Fatah leader "executed", edits throughout)

By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA, June 14 (Reuters) - Hamas fighters hunted down key
loyalists of the Western-backed Palestinian president in the
Gaza Strip on Thursday after the Islamists seized most of the
final strongholds of the secular Fatah movement in the enclave.

Hamas said it "executed" a top Fatah "collaborator" and it issued
a death list of other key supporters of President Mahmoud Abbas.
Jubilant young Hamas gunmen hoisted green Islamist flags over
captured Fatah buildings and pounded remaining Fatah bastions,
including Abbas's Gaza base, with heavy weaponry.

The White House accused them of "acts of terror". Israel and its
Western allies contemplated the emergence of a hostile and
aggressive "Hamastan" on its southern border and a final split
between Gaza and the larger West Bank, controlled by Fatah.

-snip-

Casualty figures are unclear, as was the fate of Fatah fighters
seen led away, bare-chested, after surrendering. There were
unconfirmed reports of prisoners being shot.

A Fatah official in Gaza said he had seen eight colleagues
gunned down while he escaped death "by a miracle".

-snip-


Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L14929191.htm
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 03:07 PM
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12. Looks like the Iranians
are looking for another part of the Middle East to start problems in.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 04:17 AM
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14. Wait a minute! I'm no expert but aren't the Palestinians mostly SUNNI Arabs?
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 04:20 AM by ShortnFiery
NOT to be confused with SHIITE Persians in Iran?!? :shrug:

http://hnn.us/articles/934.html

It could also be TRUE that our (USA and Coalition Forces) swaggering presence in both Afghanistan and Iraq may make "the natives" and "their REAL neighbors" a tad nervous. :(
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 03:30 AM
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13. Hamas holding senior Fatah commanders
JERUSALEM - Hamas fighters have seized Fatah's senior field commanders in the Gaza Strip, a spokesman for the Islamic group announced Friday.

The spokesman, Abu Obeideh, said the group's men arrested the commanders of the National Security organization and the elite Presidential Guard, along with a senior Fatah spokesman, a lawmaker and six other officials.

The men are being interrogated by Hamas, Obeideh said on Hamas TV.

more:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070615/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians;_ylt=A9G_RyuLTXJGJDoAzyOs0NUE
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 04:51 AM
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15. Hamas to release Fatah commanders
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Gazans awoke to the first full day of Hamas rule Friday, a new reality fraught with uncertainty and fear that they'll become even poorer and more isolated.

Streets were quiet after five days of intense fighting in which the Islamic militants seized the crowded and chaotic territory from their Fatah rivals.

But in a sign that the settling of scores might not be over, Hamas said it arrested 10 of the most senior Fatah leaders in the strip, including the commanders of President Mahmoud Abbas' own elite guard unit and the chief of the National Security force.

Hamas spokesman Abu Obeideh later said all Fatah prisoners taken by Hamas in Gaza would be released unharmed.


more:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070615/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians;_ylt=AvHEYtbbub7iU96DqKaKB0Cs0NUE
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 06:54 AM
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16. "Me, I'm with God and a bag of flour."
Doesn't say a thing about where Dahlan is .
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 07:07 AM
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17. according to this article, he's in Ramallah
Fatah's old demons -- corruption, petty quarreling, lack of leadership -- led to its dismal performance in Gaza. While disciplined Hamas systematically hoarded weapons, Fatah's Gaza leader, Mohammed Dahlan, preferred travel and West Bank politics to preparing for the inevitable showdown with the Islamic militants. Dahlan returned Thursday from Egypt, where he stayed several weeks after knee surgery. But instead of going to Gaza, he headed for Ramallah.

http://www.redding.com/news/2007/jun/15/abbas-dissolves-palestinian-government/
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 07:17 AM
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18. Ah, and that is today. Thank you.
Nice view of Mt. Shasta there.
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