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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:02 PM
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Al-Qaeda seeks unity with Hamas
Last Updated: Monday, 25 June 2007, 11:57 GMT 12:57 UK

Al-Qaeda seeks unity with Hamas

Zawahiri issues regular web recordings from unknown locations
Osama Bin Laden's number two has called on the Islamist group Hamas to unite with al-Qaeda after its victory in Gaza over Fatah, in a web-posted audiotape.
Ayman al-Zawahiri also warned against any attempt by Arab countries to wrest control of the Gaza Strip from Hamas.

Al-Qaeda has in the past criticised Hamas for taking part in the political process in the Palestinian territories.

Hamas leaders, who espouse a more moderate brand of Islamist politics, have always shunned al-Qaeda advances.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6237314.stm


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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:06 PM
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1.  More intentional demonization of Hamas.
Cui bono?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:11 PM
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2. How do you know that?
Edited on Mon Jun-25-07 02:11 PM by barb162
DO you not believe the video?
Is al qaida demonizing Hamas?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:30 PM
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3. It's a good question.
Too bad we have maybe 0.01% of the knowledge necessary to answer it.

I haven't ranted for a while, so here goes.

"Cui bono?" is an invitation to fallacy. It presumes that you have all the necessary info for answering, and suggests an obvious and pleasing solution, in many cases. People often do things for their own good, or people do things for the good of others, but often enough it's bungled or screwed up. Moreover, sometimes what they intentionally do is simply wrong, and hurts those involved in the end. "Cui bono?", asked without knowledge of intent and circumstances, will usually lead people to follow their suspicions and biases, confusing prejudices for fact. Now, the question is of use in formulating hypotheses; but in the absence of a way to check the hypotheses, all you're left with is suspicion masquerading as truth.

However, this isn't even relevant to your post. First, there's a problem in your subject line: Hamas cannot be demonized by having an AQ guy asking them to throw their lot in with AQ. If I support a politician, it *may* be because I agree with his policies, or it may be for an entirely different reason--I support not what he's clearly said but what my addled mind desires his policies to be, or I agree with one of his policies, or maybe he owes me a favor, or I'm dating his daughter, or maybe I hate his opponent or want to vote for a Polish-American, etc., etc. Only people firmly rooted in the idea of guilt by association would think having Joe Sixpack support Candidate Y says something truly meaningful about Candidate Y all by itself. Hamas has, actually, routinely said nasty things about AQ (until recently, it was mutual).

In other words, my asking you to join in a burglary does not, in itself, make you a thief. One may assume that I would only ask if I knew you were given to criminality, but that's not the only possible reason.

The tape does, however, say something interesting about AQ. What, precisely, depends on one's assumptions, rooted in biases and prejudices (only in the absence of facts, of course). As long as it's all labelled 'speculation', however, that's ok.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 08:18 PM
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4. Al CIA-duh
?? who is Al-Qaeda (the base(toilet in Arabic))data base??
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