Must The Show Go On?

[drdon326]

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000189.html

[bluesoul]

1. Hmm

Is there any specific reason that links to cartoons from extreme anti-Muslim anti-Arab anti-Palestinian racist sites are posted here?

Btw this is the same site that has a cartoon of Daschle and Kennedy portrayed as "weapons of crass obstruction" and this written underneath: Doug writes: "As the Bush Administration pursues aggressive new strategies to win the War on Terror, the shrill voices of Ted Kennedy, Tom Daschle, and their fellow Democrats offer nothing but bitter partisanship, judiciary filibusters, and the continuation of failed policies of the past. Let's remove these hazardous and obsolete weapons from Washington."

So much for your nice source (friends with LGF) of cartoons and depictions...

[nn2004]

2. Maybe to balance palestinechronicle.com and others

http://www.searchingjenin.com http://globalresearch.ca/articles/GRI309B.html
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1417702,00.html
http://www.aljazeerah.info
etc

[Darranar]

3. Those sites are racist?

[bluesoul]

4. Yeah

He must have messed criticism (the sites he gave have Israelis/Jews writing for them as well) with hatred & racism...

[Muddleoftheroad]

5. Racist?

Personally, I haven't delved too deeply into the site. If it's racist, make a case to the mods. If not, don't claim so.

[Name removed]

6. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Muddleoftheroad]

7. I believe that's an editorial cartoon

Lord knows, we could dredge up much worse from some of the lovely pro-Palestinian sites.

Again, prove it's racist and take it to the mods. Otherwise, deal.

[Darranar]

8. What's "much worse" from there?

Well?

[Muddleoftheroad]

9. You asked

Well, I stink at posting html or pics, so here is the link. Please someone show me how to actually post the pope cartoon here.

http://www.pmw.org.il/new/cartoonphoto.html

[bluesoul]

11. Muddle

Well you found that site. Did anyone link it here as a reference with which he agrees with? I don't think so! Which is obviously the case with this thread, as I didn't see any comment from the author disagreeing with it, just posting it. Which would mean he sees it as OK. So...

[Muddleoftheroad]

14. That site

Is a Palestinian watch site. It includes lovely items from throughout the Palestinian media.

My point is I hate superlatives. If you think something is in bad taste, fine. But to say it is racist is a pretty high standard. Either that needs to be proven or dropped.

[IndianaGreen]

30. A Palestinian watch site run by the ultra-Zionists

who would be doing themselves and the world a favor if they channel some of that energy into getting the fuck out of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem.

Go back to the 1967 borders, or else you will lose the whole ball of wax!

[LevChernyi]

31. I'm wondering..

in what way whatsover does a "Palestinian watch site" ran by people who are obviously zionist and of some other confession than Muslim with a rather nasty view of them in general differ from something like Jewwatch.com and would anyone around here find anything positive whatsover to recomend for these sites mirror image.

[Muddleoftheroad]

32. In your dreams

Jerusalem is one entity and the capital of Israel.

The rest is negotiable whenever the Palestinians have a government that will do something about terrorism.

[bluesoul]

10. My point

I don't see anyone posting links to sites or cartoons depictings Jews in that way. Besides my point is not about deleting the thread, or wanting the mods to do anything but wondering what purpose exactly does posting such venom suit. What was the point of it anyway? To show hatred of Palestinians/Muslims? Then at least say it loud and clear (or comment it) instead of hiding behind racist cartoons. Was I clear enough?

[Muddleoftheroad]

12. My point

If you really can prove it is racist, it will go on the list of unapproved sites. I am suggesting you put your money where your mouth is.

I am neither supporting the site nor attacking it. But if you want to call it racist, that is a strong claim and I think you should try and back it up.

[drdon326]

13. A whole lot of bs...

the site is not racist and the cartoon depicts arafat
pulling the strings of abbas and quori (sp).

Its the oldest profession at DU.....
When you dont like the message....blame the messenger.

[bluesoul]

15. Well

Well by such standard the link Muddle gave is also not racist or insulting in any way.

But then if one hates Palestinians or Arabs in general, he won't find a lot of things racist/insulting since they are close to his mentality...

[Darranar]

16. Speaking of bs...

a cartoon with the caption "Bring em on, Allah" seems rather racist to me.

[drdon326]

17. One can disagree....

And did I post that??

[Darranar]

18. No, you didn't...

but would I post from Davidduke.com? Would you consider it accpetable if I did, even if it was pretty much free fo racism?

[drdon326]

19. Pul-eeze....

I doubt you could find anything even remotely acceptable
from that site.
Hey I have to read garbage from Jihad-unspun, EI and
other sites like that. I find them disgusting, but I
deal with it.

[Darranar]

22. Duke and Co say a few things...

about Israeli control of politics that would be very acceptable to certain members of this forum. There's a reason I can't stand their junk; it's because I've seen its source.

[drdon326]

24. Well

Jihad unspun say a few things about Israeli control of politics that are very acceptable to certain members of this forum....

i hate it.....but i deal with it.

[Darranar]

25. Jihad Unpsun?

Cite and link to an article of thiers that is racist. Or an article from any other site that has ever been posted here by posters on the Pro-Palestinian side and that they agreed with that is racist

[bluesoul]

26. Well

If they tell the truth sometimes then no wonder some would agree. I mean some things are just facts. Like the occupation. Illegal settlements. Land grabbing.

[Scurrilous]

20. Bluesoul..

..the first time I saw the Cox & Forkum website linked here, I had the same reaction as you. I thought the site was racist and really didn't belong in a supposedly 'progressive' forum. The particular cartoon I objected to depicted Palestinians as dogs. Many others in here raised objections also, to no avail. Apparently the powers that be feel this site is within the bounds of acceptability.

As for the purpose of posting links to that site, I think the person who does is it trying to provoke a reaction. For what reasons, I don't know why.

[drdon326]

21. Yeah..trying to provoke a reaction.

Well let me help you....the reaction I'm trying to provoke
is that arafat is pulling all the strings and is in control
of everything.

I hope that helps you understand the depiction.

[bluesoul]

23. Exactly

I know what you are talking about. I checked a couple of other cartoons of their and the main site with related links. And what do you know Daniel Pipes, Little Green Footballs, Eye On the left, Andrew Sullivan, WSJ, and a bunch of other extreme right wing sites, people that are as far to the right as few are. Need I say more? :puke:

[Scurrilous]

27. By their links..

..you shall know them. Funny what kind of people you run into here, huh? :)

[bluesoul]

28. Ahh

It's sad that it has to happen here. Anyway, good night to you all! It's 00.17 here! :boring:

[IndianaGreen]

29. If someone had posted a cartoon with Sharon having as big a nose

as the nose in the Arafat cartoon that you posted, you would have been among those screaming "Anti-Semitism!"

I pity the Israel-can-do-no-wrong crowd! Who are they going to demonize after Arafat dies? Clinton's cock or Arnold's groping?

[Lithos]

33. Locking

This has turned into flame-bait

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