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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 06:18 PM
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Noisy protests begin at Rutgers
Several thousand demonstrators rallied at Rutgers University last night in support of Israel as about 100 pro-Palestine activists staged their own noisy demonstration nearby.

The "Israel Inspires" rally on the university's Busch campus in Piscataway was organized by area Jewish organizations in response to recent anti-Semitic incidents at Rutgers and a national pro-Palestine conference scheduled to begin today in North Brunswick.

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Local Jewish organizations sent about 80 buses to the event filled with Israel supporters who ranged in age from young children to senior citizens. Rutgers officials estimated 5,000 to 7,000 people attended the two-hour event. Many waved Israeli flags, "Where ever we stand, we stand with ISRAEL" signs and "I am Israel" balloons.

As they filed into the rally, the pro-Israel demonstrators passed a group of about 100 counterprotesters chanting "Free, free Palestine" and "Long live the intifada" and waving "Palestine will be free from sea to sea" and "Israel Inspires Terror" signs.

The pro-Palestine group, made up of a mix of young Arab-Americans and college activists, was kept behind police barricades across the street from the entrance to the event

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http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1065764716131070.xml

"Long live the intifada". As feared, a small, pathetic group of terrorist sympathizers sought to disrupt the thousands that came to support little Israel. Oh, my.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 06:25 PM
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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 06:42 PM
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4. How dare you
Your comment is offensive and borderline anti-semitic. Apologize.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 06:52 PM
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:04 PM
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16. You want to explain this?
I'm not hitting alert yet because I assume there's some context to this comment and it's not just something as vile and generic as "Jews are filthy and stink." Please explain what I'm not seeing in this.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:12 PM
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18. There's a bit of context.
The person I was replying to has in the past made derogatory comments about the way Arabs smell. I thought it funny he would demand apologies from others when he too has made comments that were offensive. Sorry for the confusion.
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:23 PM
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21. I was hoping there was context
I have not seen these comments from that poster and I will take you at your word that he said them. I would have preferred that you not respond to a smear in a like manner, but at least your response was understandable in light of what was apparently said in the past.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:45 PM
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14. huh? please explain what was "anti-semetic" about that remark....
Edited on Fri Oct-10-03 08:46 PM by mike_c
eom
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:10 PM
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17. You really don't get it?
It's yet another version of the ever popular "the Holocaust was so two generations ago ... when will those whining Jews get over it?" and "if the Jews would just quit their bellyaching and paranoia everything would be fine."

And if you STILL don't see what's anti-semitic about that, perhaps you should get out of Humboldt County for a while.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:13 PM
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19. Really....


btw....check your in-box.
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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:25 PM
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10. Actually, I have a suggestion for you
@#$%$#@%^&*%$# can you guess? I know it's difficult but you can do it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:19 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 06:27 PM
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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 06:29 PM
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3. Indeed my friend
Those phrases tell us all we need to know.
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LevChernyi Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:28 PM
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11. so what?
You have a busload of "Israel from the Jordan to the sea!" fanatics elected to high office in this country, what the hell is the difference?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:35 PM
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12. Terrorist lovers according to Daniel Pipes
Edited on Fri Oct-10-03 07:35 PM by Tinoire
and people who listen to him.
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 06:49 PM
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5. little Israel is a giant in this country...
...dissent in favor of Palestinians is squashed at every level. Hurray for the pro-palestine activists! I'm sure they are up against all kinds of obstacles.

They are not "terrorist sympathizers" - they are anti-apartheid activists.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:04 PM
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7. Uh, anyway
Good for the NJU.
We need more campus activism.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:06 PM
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8. all go to their corners and foreswear hateful rhetoric...
it doesn't help. I understand the anger/emotions on all sides. this place, however, is a forum for reason and respectful dialogue, no matter how ardent the posters.

having said that, the 'get off the cross' comment is probably the most offensive, classless and grossly inappropriate statement I've seen in ages.

It's more than insulting. I believe it IS Jew-baiting and brushes right up alongside that old "Jews as Christ-killers" canard.

Stop it, willya?
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LevChernyi Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:19 PM
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9. I didn't even think of the Jeebus angle till later..
That wasn't me that said it, but I think I understood the sentiment even if the historical reference is problematic :shrug:
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:36 PM
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13. Then you are imagining things big time n/t
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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:55 PM
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15. WhatEVER they shouted
it beats leaving anonymous bomb threats on the answering machine of a Palestinian supporter (as happened here at Berkeley).

Please tell me what slogan YOU think young Arab-Americans should shout in such a situation - "All hail nuclear-armed little Israel" ? Or should they just keep their mouths shut ?
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Equinox Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:24 AM
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23. I think some would prefer...
"Let us bend over and take it in the ass some more!"

But that wouldn't be right now would it....

:shrug:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:08 PM
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28. Your tagline lacks originality.
You have much to learn, grasshopper.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:43 PM
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22. Resistance to the Occupation...
could easily be considered the Intefadah.
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Equinox Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:15 AM
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24. Today, we are all Palestinians!
n/t
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:47 PM
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25. Then today
the majority of you live in Jordan and should fight for democracy there.

Oh wait, you tried that and more people were killed in one month than in the entire history of the occupation. But thats different cuz no Jews were involved.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:59 PM
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26. Democracy
So much for democracy in Israel....
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:04 PM
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27. Funny....
how thats never discussed here.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:09 PM
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29. Not me, pal.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:11 PM
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30. Locking
Per I/P guidelines:

Don't make over-sweeping or stereotypical generalizations of any group or individual.

Support of Palestinian Nationalism does not equal support of terrorism.

As feared, a small, pathetic group of terrorist sympathizers sought to disrupt the thousands that came to support little Israel. Oh, my.




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