Report: Mossad, IAF have plan for Iran nuke sites

[Herschel]

The German newspaper Der Spiegel reported Saturday that Israel has prepared plans for a pre-emptive strike against Iran's nuclear facilities in order to halt Iran's progress towards attaining nuclear weapons.

Der Spiegel reported that a special unit of the Mossad received an order two months ago to prepare a detailed plan to destroy Iran's nuclear sites. According to the paper, the Mossad's plan is ready and has been delivered to the Israeli Air Force, which will carry out the strike.

The newspaper said its source is an IAF fighter-bomber pilot, who said the plan to take out Iran's nuclear sites was "complex, yet manageable."

The paper added that Israel knows Iran has six nuclear sites, all of which would be attacked simultaneously by Israeli jets.

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It is comforting to know the IAF and Mossad are prepared.

[Fight_n_back]

1. Planas are just that

any responsible government should plan for all manner of reasonable risk.

The US has plans on how to fight a war with China it doesn't mean we relish the idea.

[Darranar]

2. This will fail miserably...

Iran would never be stupid enough to store their nuclear materials in plain site. If no one else can find them, I doubt the Mossad can.

The fact that they're releasing this information to the public makes me think that they aren't going to do anything about this.

[Gimel]

12. Send in Blix

Of course, if inspections fail, you can always bomb later.

[bahrbearian]

18. The inspection's Failed ,,,I didn't know !!

[Jack Rabbit]

32. Of course they failed

EDITED for typing

They failed to justify a thug's predetermined course of action.

To Bush, that there was nothing to find was not an acceptable excuse for not finding anything. Now that Dr. Kay has failed to find anything, Bush is going to channel Ponce de Leon and send him to Iraq to look for Saddam's arsenal.

[drdon326]

34. Jack......

you seem to be 'beating around the bush' (so to speak)...
let it out.

(just joking)

[Jack Rabbit]

59. Beating around the Bushes is what DU is about, Doc

Right now, the dog need to go outside and do his business in the bushes.

[bluesoul]

3. Comforting indeed

Yes very comforting. Especially considering if some of the radioactive stuff contaminates large segments of the population...

[bahrbearian]

4. The Elephant in the Living Room

Isreal!!!! WMD..Pay on attention to it, They're on the Good Guys side.

[drdon326]

5. Wha ???

.

[bahrbearian]

6. Isreal has Nukes Duh!!!

[Darranar]

7. What was the meaning of your post?

[drdon326]

8. OK......And that means??

:shrug:

[bahrbearian]

14. Read Post #10

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I'll Bite...

I can have a large problem with the PNAC model for the Middle East and Iran acquiring nuclear weapons....

Besides Iran in whose interest is it that they acquire nuclear weapons....

[bluesoul]

10. Double standards

The problem is Iran, Iraq or any other Arab, Muslim country should not have them while Israel can have as much as it likes as it does have. Double standards and hypocrisy, plain and simple...

[Gimel]

13. Ah, right

The Ayatollah is preaching peace ;-)

[bahrbearian]

15. Sharon and Chimmpy sure aren't

[DuctapeFatwa]

17. Noooo, ONLY Israel and the US should have nukes or any weapons

There may be certain exceptions, like England, but that is really up to the US to decide.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. You Forgot

France, Pakistan, India, Russia, and China....

[DuctapeFatwa]

45. India is only getting to keep them till the other 3 get nuked

In fact, US may have India nuke Pakistan, who will nuke them back, thus reducing the troublesome population who can't be depended on to put US business interests before their own.

The hope is that N Korea and China will nuke each other, and take care of the pesky Asia problem once and for all.

If Israel does a good enough job nuking Iran, they might get to nuke Russia!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. If the fallout doesn't kill us all

the mess would disrupt commerce...

Can't we all just get us along...

[Gimel]

73. Getting along

try and address the PLO and terrorist problem. Do they really want peace? No.

[Gimel]

69. Except that

israel isn't going to "nuke" Iran. It planes to DEnuke Iran. A big difference.

[DuctapeFatwa]

71. It will be the same as when Israel's nuke plants are attacked

The relatives of the dead may not appreciate the difference as keenly as you do.

[Gimel]

72. The difference

Although I don't see that you have a point, the relatives of Israeli casualties from the so-called "suicide bombers" or other attacks, sniper or rocks, are not willing to continue to be the vicitms of the Arab states. While many do not want revenge for the deaths, a preventative stike on a terrorist camp or a nuclear facility (assuming no civilian casualties) is not a civilian target. Wake up.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. I Prefer The Status Quo

to a nuclear war that will consume the entire Middle East....


Which is worse...

Tens of millions of dead Jews and Muslims or a little hypocrisy?

[Fight_n_back]

28. Herre is your chance

to use all of your rhetorical powers to defend the right of Iran to have nuclear weapons. How is the world safer with Iran having nuclear weapons?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. I Oppose A Nuclearized Iran

NT

[drdon326]

11. Deleted

.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Why Did You Delete Your Post?

I am curious...

Did I say something offensive?

[drdon326]

21. Nooo....

i just had no idea what point you were trying to make.

In fact, i'm still working at it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. My Point

is I don't see it to be in the interest of Iran, the region, or the world for it to acquire nuclear weapons....

[drdon326]

24. Apparently....Iran thinks....

its in its own interest to have nukes.

what do you think should be done?
a.ignore
b.pressure by un/iaea
c.negotiate
d.take them out
e.none of the above

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. b and c

[drdon326]

27. Hasn't worked so far.

.

[bahrbearian]

35. That's right hasn't worked since Chimmpy stoled the WH

[Darranar]

25. It is most certainly in the interest of Iran...

to do such a thing. Insurance against a US invasion is useful for a member of the axis of evil.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. I'm Not Sure Of That

unless they have missiles that can hit the United States....

The U S has to respect the North Korean threat because they could wreak havoc on our ally,South Korea with or without nuclear weapons. Also, they have missiles that may or not be able to reach the U S....

Who is Iran going to hold hostage?

Saudi Arabia....

I don't think so....

But I do agree with your premise that the PNAC philosophy of this administration and the preemptive strike doctrine encourages nuclear proliferation...

I'm just not sure that the countries that are going nuclear have thought it through with as much alacrity as they think....

[Darranar]

31. The American soldiers...

who might have go in there.

Or they could smuggle a nuclear weapon into the US. It isn't that hard.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. There's Enough Nukes On A Few American Submarines

to turn the whole M E into a parking lot....


North Korea is sui generis....


As far as smuggling nukes .... I guess the technology exists to bring a dirty bomb to the U S... I just don't see a few random Iranian nukes as a deterrent..

[Darranar]

42. Oh, they're a detterent, all right...

when has any nation ver gone on an offensive war with a nation that was known to have nukes?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

53. India and Pakistan

NT

[Darranar]

56. When?

Haven't all their wars been before nukes came into the picture?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. There Have Been Border Skirmishs

In fact, there were border skermishs between the USSR and China....


What I'm trying to get it is , in most cases, one or two nukes isn't going to deter nation with 15,000*




cept for North Korea which is sui generis...

[Darranar]

65. Border skirmishes don't count...

Look at it this way.

If the US attacks Iran, Iran has two choices:

A: they can fight a conventional war, and their regime will be toppled.

B: They can launch nukes into the American forces and kill them off, and perhaps (note the perhaps) be spared nuclear annihalation.

They'll probably lose their nation either, way, but at least (B) gives them a chance to the contrary...

[bahrbearian]

37. and alot cheaper and easier to hide

[DuctapeFatwa]

16. Israel will have to pre-emptively nuke several countries

This is such good news for the Israeli people, at last they can show their gratitude to the US for its half century of generosity and unwavering friendship.

[Fight_n_back]

29. Half century?

You show yourself to be uninformed on US aid to Israel.

Please explain how the world is safer with nuclear weapons in Iran?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. I Think It Brings Us Closer To The Doomsday Scenario.....

NT

[bahrbearian]

38. Is it safer to allow Isreal to have nuke's and the delivery system

that we GAVE them.

[bluesoul]

40. Israel

Yeah I also wonder about that. Does Israel's possession make those around them feel any safer. What if they used their WMD against others? They have nukes, lots of them. Why should Israel have the right denied to others? Under people like Sharon if I lived in a neighbouring country I wouldn't feel any safer then if I was Saddams neigbour fearing him...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. As

long as it used as a deterrent....

[bahrbearian]

46. Are they using the F-16's as a deterrent or a weapon ?

Maybe we should ask Syria.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. Off Topic

I am just debating the prudence of a nuclearized Iran....

If you want my grand view of the I P conflict it's pretty pedestrian...

I favor a two state solution with international troops as a buffer between Israel and the emerging Palestinian state but it's prolly a pipe dream....

[bahrbearian]

58. You need a big buffer to stop F-16's and Curise Missle's

Not Off Topic !

[DuctapeFatwa]

48. I'm speaking roughly, from 48, but we can go back if you like, and

Whether the world is safer if Iran has nukes depends on whether you consider that Iran is part of the world and has the right to exist and defend itself.

My psychic powers tell me we probably disagree on that.

My personal preference would be for the US, Israel and Iran to disarm.

[Fight_n_back]

39. Why is the world safer if Iran has nukes?

Simple question, could I have an answer please?

[bluesoul]

41. two way street

It isn't. Why is the world safer if Israel has them? Can you answer that as well. The answer may reveal all the double standards and hypocrisy...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. As Long As Israel Uses Her Nuclear Capability As A Deterrent

the whole world is better off....

[bluesoul]

49. Hmm

Well then so can OTHERS use it as a "deterrent" as well! Thats the whole point. Or are you telling me that others don't need to feel threatened. Especially now that Israel is threatening Syria and other countries that they can't be safe. Or Bushie and his neocons on their world crusade against any Muslim country they find appropriate. They don't feel threatened by that? Answer me sincerely if you can!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. I Oppose Israeli Expansionism....

I think the PNAC model is seriuosly flawed....

I don't see how a nuclear arms race is in anybodys interest especially the Arabs since they have thirty times as many people to lose....

[bluesoul]

55. PNAC

The PNAC is not only seriously flawed, the whole concept is against every ideal that any moderate, liberal, progressive, democrat, humanistic human being holds dear. The idea, movement,policy, mentality of it is disgusting. As for the nuclear arms race I fully agree. I rest my case ;-)

[Fight_n_back]

54. Sincerely?

You say "any Muslim country" but MOST of the muslim countries that are a threat to the world are being ignored.

Israel DOES NOT SUPPORT terrorist organizations in other countries as Iran does.

Israel is a democracy, democracies are more stable than theocratic dictatorships.

The nuclear genie is out of the bottle and all that can be hoped for now is to limit them to nations that are part of or seeking to be part of the world community.

Explain your double standard on almost all of your criticisms of Israel. How can you, with a straight face, defend nations like Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia while spweing your nascent polemics against Israel?

[bluesoul]

57. Don't put words into my mouth

Who says I DEFEND them? Show me ONE post where I have defended them. But I am most surely not going to defend Israel either as some of you are doing here, persistently if I may say so! Because they are still far from the democracy you consider them. As they are violating numerous international laws, conventions, resolutions and are engaged in an illegal occupation and settlement building to name just a few things.. Ahhh

[Fight_n_back]

61. The definition of democracy

has nothing to do with your moral jugements of a nations foreign policy

arr yourself.

[Name removed]

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[bluesoul]

60. Really?

Oh there are even more Muslim countries that are a "threat" to the world? Funny I don't feel threatened by them. So you would even widen the list of "axis of evil" that Bush and the neocons already have (Iran, Syria, Libia...) What interesting things will i learn here. Why am I not surprised. Just like those on.....

[Name removed]

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[bluesoul]

64. I wonder

How are they threatening me or you? Did they declare war on anyone? Oh wait, or are you one of those that think the 9/11 was a war declared by Muslims in general against the "western civilization". I really wonder..

[bahrbearian]

66. Stealing land is a Form of Terriorism!!!

Bending the will of People is Facism!

[Fight_n_back]

68. Bumper stickers are easy to read

because there isn't a lot there!

[Gimel]

70. Then there is a choice

The Palestinian population, as individuals in a start-up democracy, to support terrorist organizations that kill the innocent people of their neighbor, or accept a peace agreement. Is their will to support Hamas? Wouldn't you want to bend that will?