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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:42 PM
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Israel says time not right for Gaza ceasefire
Israel says the time is not right for a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip and has stepped up preparations for a possible ground offensive after Hamas's long-range rockets hit another major population centre.

"If conditions will ripen and we think there will be a diplomatic solution that will ensure a better security reality in the south, we will consider it. But at the moment, it's not there," an aide quoted Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as saying on Wednesday.


http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/israel-says-time-not-right-gaza-ceasefire-2432287">TV New Zealand - read more
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:45 PM
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1. "The time isn't right-- we still have 1,499,650 more to go"
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:46 PM
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2. all "collateral damage" of course
wink, wink
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:47 PM
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3. They all chose to be human shields for Hamas, don't 'cha know
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:55 PM
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5. The human shield meme is BS
Gaza is more densely populated than a number of uS cities 10,655 people per square mile
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:00 PM
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8. I don't know how to use the sarcasm emoticon
I fail :(
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:29 PM
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13. Sorry realliy though it is true
I listed off several on another thread Oakland, St Louis, Minneapolis and Dallas come to mind though
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:35 PM
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15. exactly. [n/t]
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:53 PM
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4. Seems the M$M tide may be turning
Israel rejects truce call, pursues bombing Gaza

Gaza officials put the death toll at more than 390 dead and 1,600 wounded. Hamas says some 200 uniformed members of Hamas security forces have been killed, and the U.N. says at least 60 Palestinian civilians have died. Israeli defense officials say Hamas' top military and political leaders have gone underground and have not been touched.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

yes the written content is about the same but it is the pictures this time Israeli weaponry and scenes from inside a church in Gaza, we were supposed to forget that there are Christians there, only Muslim extremeists
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:58 PM
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6. I still get the impression that we're supposed to blame Hamas
(rather than the actual killers)
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:00 PM
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9. The church is not in Gaza
From the photo caption:

Palestinian Christians pray during a Mass service in support of Gaza at the Latin Holy Family Church in the West Bank city of Ramallah, Wednesday, Dec. 31, 2008.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:32 PM
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14. They have switch pictures the first one was from a church
in Gaza, also I had to sign out of my Yahoo and find the article again to post it
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:41 PM
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17. I very much doubt that
The Yahoo News Photos are from the Latin Holy Family Church in Ramallah.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 04:33 PM
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18. Ah okay if you say so
I am not at all surprised at your need to refute
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 04:39 PM
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19. You don't refute inaccurate information you see posted?
I think we both share that need.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 07:22 PM
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20. Okay so what is gained?
The picture was ina Christian church in the OPT so? And BTW I have let some go by including yours
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:27 PM
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12. Let's hope so but . . .
. . . I'm not convinced. The MSM still mostly buys Israeli propaganda.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:59 PM
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7. not enough dead bodies???
:sarcasm:
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:04 PM
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10. not enough dead gazans
They never could figure out what to do with the natives, I guess the latest strategy is to just massacre them every now and then. who knows, it's just pure bloodthirst driving this thing now
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:07 PM
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11. it is just sick.
both sides are bloodthirsty, and we do not have any credibility to broker some solution. We are supplying Israel with bombs. :-(
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:37 PM
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16. yup, esp. after that survey of Israeli attitudes about this latest incursion
that was posted here a few days ago. Majority support for the IDF's actions, with only a minority who believe it will actually reduce the number of rockets fired at Southern Israel. So if it's not self-defense they're really after, that doesn't leave a lot of good options left.
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