Doctor killed as he helps wounded

[DuctapeFatwa]

Doctor Zain Shahin's first reaction to the Israeli air strike on Monday near the clinic where he worked was to rush out to treat the wounded.


It cost him his life.

Witnesses said the Palestinian doctor rushed to help the wounded lying around a car struck by a missile.

But he himself was hit by shrapnel when a second missile slammed into a crowd of people who had also come to see who they could save.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/888329B4-386A-451B-8685-50D0B3F5386B.htm

[DuctapeFatwa]

1. Water has been cut off to Jenin

None of the CrusadeMedia have echoed the story, so it is only available on sites that are not approved by the bush regime, and forbidden here, but those interested should be able to find it. :)

[madrchsod]

2. well isn`t that nice

"slammed into a crowd of people who had also come to see who they could help"....oh never mind,i`ll just get into trouble....

[DuctapeFatwa]

3. Israeli TV Report: None Of Dead In Camp Strike Were Militants

four schoolchildren were wounded and a doctor treating victims of an earlier strike was killed.

Israel's Channel 10 TV said none of the dead were militants and called the refugee camp strike a "mistake."

The aircraft also hit a suspected Hamas weapons

http://www.click10.com/news/2568025/detail.html

[tinnypriv]

4. I wonder if the western media will echo their Israeli doctor coverage?

Much wailing and gnashing of teeth about him (rightly of course).

Somehow I doubt it.

[DuctapeFatwa]

10. I would not advise postponing respiration in anticipation of it

CNN, in fact, is not even reporting that there were no militants killed, which even Israeli TV is doing!

[tinnypriv]

14. Yeah as usual the non-westernised Israelis are more honest

The word "civilian" does not appear in the reports of CNN/BBC/Ha'aretz.

Yediot Aharonot puts it on the front page. :eyes:

Also, check this caption out:

"Israel has a heavy army presence in the West Bank"

What the fuck? Next the US will have a "heavy army presence" in Eye-Raq.

:dunce:

[Darranar]

5. Ah, the humane tactics of the IDF!

[bemildred]

6. "The most moral army in the world."

Sort of my point in the other thread.
Not amount of talk about morality and justifications
fixes the fact you killed a child for nothing.
If you have any real moral nerve at all, you face it
and try to do better, you don't make excuses.

[Darranar]

7. That's a good point...

excusing the deaths of innocent people doesn't accomplish anything.

The time spent producing propaganda to excuse it would be better spent preventing it a second time.

But I think we both know that the chance of anyone with much power consistently following your advice is one in a million.

[bemildred]

8. Morality is not a public relations tool.

It is not a convenience. Excusing deaths of innocents might
accomplish something, it's a fairly widespread activity, but
that has nothing to do with morality, it has to do with public
relations and propaganda and such. Morality says killing innocent
children is an evil act. Pretty rigid stuff.

[IndianaGreen]

11. Israelis believe in their mantras, i.e., "the most moral army in the world

as we do in ours, i.e., "the leader of the free world."

Self-delusion is a national pastime in both countries.

[bemildred]

12. They are popular most everywhere.

Helps protect one from inconvenient thoughts.

My fav. US one is "the land of the free", whereas many foreign
lands allow far more personal freedom than in the US. The freedom
the US provides is mostly economic, i.e. the right to get rich at
the expense of ones fellow humans. For this we pay with byzantine
regulation of our personal lives and stultifyingly uniform commercial
driven "entertainment".

[Resistance]

9. let's be honest

Dr. Shahin was killed by terrorists. The IDF are every bit as much a terrorist organization as Hamas is.

[yotam]

15. Riiiiiiiight..

we all know targeting terrorists, missing & killing innocents is morally the same as specifically targeting innocent civilians.
Your point = :puke:

[bluesoul]

16. Give me a break

Let's see dropping a bomb or rocket on a higly populated civilian area knowing there are civilians - children and others non militants, yep that's pretty much the same. Your point is nuthin' but :puke:

[yotam]

19. From what I've read & heard IDF takes measures to avoid

civilian deaths - but it is not always possible and it isn't an exact science anyway. I stand by my point that to compare Hamas (basically a bunch of literally fanatic murderers) and IDF is misleading (to say the least). For that matter do you believe US bombing in Baghdad is the same as Hamas? Also I want to add that I am in no way condoning killing any innocents - but that should be obvious.

[Sesquipedalian]

20. of course there is a difference

when Israel fired the second missle into the crowd that gathered at the burning car it was a "mistake", just like it's a mistake when Hamas rigs extra bombs to try and take out the rescue crew :eyes:

[bluesoul]

21. Nice try

Condoning, justifying, looking for excuses, it makes no difference to me. Those people (civilians) are dead. And Israel/IDF is responsible for those deaths and no one else!

[Sesquipedalian]

17. If you believe all that crap..

I don't think they have any clue what they are attacking with the helicopters and furthermore don't care.

[tinnypriv]

18. Damn, you're to the right of some in the Israeli government!

Weird. :eyes:

[Equinox]

22. Resistence...I beg differ....

Dr. Shahin was killed by terrorists. The IDF are every bit as much a terrorist organization as Hamas is.

Please note:

Dr. Shahin was killed by terrorists. The IOF are every bit as much a terrorist organization as Hamas is.

Now you have it.....

:toast:

[Aidoneus]

13. and now they're raiding al-Jazeera's Ramallah office

capping off a banner 24hrs.. that IDF shows great restraint, bravely defending themselves against a doctor, schoolkids, journalists.. :eyes:

[Equinox]

23. Don't forget Peace Activists and UN Relief Workers....

:eyes:

[Herschel]

24. Has a credible news source

confirmed this story?

[Aidoneus]

25. it was a Reuters report

and indeed was picked up elsewhere.

I realize that it's a mark of status and a cliche to spit on al-Jazeera, but at least do the homework first.

[Herschel]

29. So it is

Still, the al-Jazeera label inspires little confidence.

[DuctapeFatwa]

26. No, only Al Jaz, AP and Israeli TV Channel 10

Neither the Pentagon or the IDF have confirmed it, so you will probably be more comfortable if you just keep insisting that it is nothing but propaganda lies by terrorist appeasers who must be rooted out of their caves and brought to justice inside the World's Largest Concentration Camp in order to defend the McDonnell Douglas company from brutal senseless acts of production cutbacks and protect 22 and climbing % of the population of Israel from adequate food supplies.

[Darranar]

27. Has al-Jazeera EVER gotten anything wrong?

When one of their reports about an incident a day or so after it happened is proven to be wrong and appears to have been an intentional error, start whining. Not until then.

[DuctapeFatwa]

28. The fact that they have been bombed twice, and their people murdered

and maimed, and most recently, their prize reporter seized by the regime's hired thugs in Spain, where he and "several of his friends" are being "intensively interrogated," a practice for which Spain has long been well-known, is a better testament to their credibility than about anything else I can think of.

[Karmadillo]

32. Independent: Civilians pay with lives under Gaza's skies of death

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=455857

When Dr Zein al-Abedin Shahin heard the first missile hit, he immediately ran to help the wounded.

Outside the clinic where he was working late, on Abu Bakr al-Siddiq street, he found 12-year-old Mohammed al-Barood lying injured.

According to colleagues at the clinic who rushed out after him, Dr Shahin was holding the boy in his arms when the second missile hit. Both doctor and child were killed in Monday night's attack, the fifth Israeli air strike in Gaza in 24 hours and the most devastating in terms of civilian casualties.

A piece of shrapnel pierced Mohammed's heart.

more...

[laura888]

30. what!? no photos on the front page of the Wash. Post?

Innocents being killed?

Funny - photos of the Israeli bus bombing were all over the front page a little while ago?

What - are innocent Palestinian children not worth the same?

GRRHHHH! x(

[Violet_Crumble]

31. Move along, folks...

Haven't you gotten the memo from reading one or two other threads in here today? The IDF has explained it all, and because they NEVER lie about anything, who are we to doubt them? There was no Palestinian doctor killed. In fact he probably never even existed in the first place, but is a clever ploy from every habitually lying Palestinian witness who saw his death to try to make the IDF look bad. If he did exist, he was a terrorist. Same goes for that 11-year old boy. Haven't you seen the video? Me, I've got no idea why anyone would be wondering what the hell's on the last ten minutes of the tape that the IDF isn't willing to release. Blind faith in the IDF is the path we should tread. Any independent thinking about matters like the IDF acting out of self-interest rather than pure honesty in its statements on this thing must be left at the door. Thanks for yr time...

Violet...