Gaza rocket hits Gedera, 30km from Tel Aviv; baby lightly hurt

[oberliner]

A 3-month-old baby was lightly wounded Tuesday in a Grad rocket attack on Gedera, 30 kilometers from Tel Aviv, as Palestinian militants continued the cross-border fire that Israel has sought to halt in its 11-day assault on Hamas in Gaza.

The rocket struck a road in the southern city, close to residential housing, in the first such attack on Gedera. The baby sustained wounds from shards of glass that hit her face, and was subsequently taken to a hospital for treatment. Four people were also treated for shock, including the 3-month-old's mother.

Ofir Frinsky, a Magen David Adom emergency services paramedic, told Haaretz that, "We have been prepared in Gedera for a long time. We heard the alert and headed out with reinforcements to the scene."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1053139.html

[aquart]

1. "Baby lightly hurt." Doesn't count.

It must be so humiliating for Hamas that they haven't taken out a school. Or two.

[TomClash]

2. Yes, they are inept at killing civilians

when compared to the Israeli killing machine.

[hack89]

3. So lets not let them get good at it. nt

[TomClash]

4. By killing more civilians? Not likely nt

[hack89]

5. You are right abouts Hamas' intent

lets not let them get the means.

[TomClash]

9. I did not say anything about Hamas' intent

Intent isn't the issue. "Let's?" Please don't include me in your killing field.

[hack89]

23. Intent is not the issue?

sounds like an argument that Israel has to wait until Hamas is strong enough to kill a bunch of Israelis. It should be clear to you why Israel rejects that POV and will do everything in their power to keep Hamas weak until Hamas shows a real commitment to peace.

[Duckhunter935]

7. As we all know

There are no uniformed military mixed in with civilians with the goal of destroying the state of Israel in Gaza. Only civilians mixed with civilians

[TomClash]

10. So your point is that they are indistinguishable

Then why were the initial casualties in hospital almost all "Hamas militants?" And why now are most of the casualties in hospital almost all civilians?

When Israel conducts air strikes, why does it always announce that 6 militants or 10 militants but no civilians were killed?

[Duckhunter935]

13. No

My point was, each tends to see things from different prospectives. The Israelis side says most killed are militants and the Palistian side seems to say ALL deaths are civilian. Well Hamas does have a uniformed force mixed with civilians and that are firing rockets at only Israeli civilian targets. Some deaths will be uniformed fighters, we just do not know the total percentage but it is NOT 100% civilian.

[ProgressiveMuslim]

8. And because Israel doesn't profess being "proud" of killing civilians it doesn't count?

You kid yourself.

[azurnoir]

21. Oh no Israel says it doen't "target" civilians

so it must be true, it just "accidentally" hits them alot.

more on the subject

The guiding principle of Israel's ground invasion is to move in with full force and try to minimize Israeli casualties, Israeli military correspondent Alex Fishman wrote in the daily Yediot Ahronoth. "We'll pay the international price later for the collateral damage and the anticipated civilian casualties," Fishman said."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=237283&mesg_id=237283

In other words hasbara and an bunch of online folks making excuses for them.

[ProgressiveMuslim]

22. I can't fathom it.

I truly can't fathom how the excuse-making, minimization and denials continue in the face of the dead kids' corpses.

[Arrowhead2k1]

24. It's racism plain and simple.

No one will ever admit, to themselves even, but that's what it is. Apparently 1 Israeli is worth hundreds if not thousands of dead Palestinians. Sad reality.

[TomClash]

11. Here's your school attack - in your name

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/59041.html

Airstrike kills 3 at Gaza school U.N. using as refugee center

JERUSALEM — An Israeli military strike killed three people at a United Nations-run school in Gaza City where they had sought shelter from an intensifying ground war inside the Gaza Strip, officials said Tuesday.

U.N. officials said an Israeli strike directly hit an elementary school compound where more than 400 Palestinians had come to escape fighting in northern Gaza, and which was clearly marked as a U.N. installation. The U.N. said it was "strongly protesting" the incident and called on Israel to immediately investigate it.

The three civilian deaths added to a mounting death toll in Israel’s 11-day-old offensive in Gaza against the militant Islamic group Hamas, and they came as some Israelis say that the operation is entering a critical phase where expanding ground operations could result in greater Israeli military casualties.

[Duckhunter935]

14. That makes it right

To fire rockets at an Israeli school, I for one condemn both but I guess you just want to justify one sides attack.

[TomClash]

20. No, I have condemned both sides

It is you and others who support every Israeli move who only justify one side.

[Duckhunter935]

6. Yes, few people around here will comdemn this

Its just another Israili civilian hurt but is not proportional to Gaza

[bunnies]

12. Meanwhile, Israel blew up 2 more schools this morning.

UN schools no less. But I'm sure they were legitimate 'targets'. :eyes:

[Duckhunter935]

15. Link please?

[bunnies]

16. here you go --->

http://www.military.com/news/article/fighting-moves-to-the-streets-of-gaza.html

[Duckhunter935]

17. Thank you, Yes I agree that is bad

But how bad we do not know, The article say damaged and five killed out of around 400. If the schools in fact were destroyed I think it would be much worse. I would also like to know how much fighting was going on around those schools from Hamas fighters to get a more complete picture.

[bunnies]

18. Yes. More information would be good.

Seems they just kinda mention it in passing.

Hopefully the schools arent completely wiped out. I worry about what the Gazans will be left with. Schools, hospitals, etc. It seems like the ones who suffer most in any war are the children. Its so sad.

on edit: looks like it was the courtyard - not the school itself - in one case. Hopefully it'll be the same with the other.

[ProgressiveMuslim]

19. Three killed as Israeli forces strike UN schools in Gaza

Date: 06 / 01 / 2009 Time: 14:17



Bethlehem – Ma’an – Three Palestinians were killed overnight in an Israeli attack on a United Nations school that was housing people displaced by the violence in Gaza, the UN’s relief agency for Palestinian refugees said on Tuesday.

In a statement circulated on Tuesday, UNRWA said that Israeli forces attacked the Asma Elementary School in Gaza City, which is currently sheltering 400 people who fled their homes in the town of Beit Lahiy.

The school was clearly marked as a United Nations installation. The three men, 24-year-old Hussein Mahmoud Abed Al Malek Al Sultan, 19-year-old Abed Samir Ali Al Sultan, and 25-year-old Rawhi Jamal Ramadan Al Sultan, were killed at 11:30 last night. The three men, all from the same family, were killed as they left the school toilet at eleven thirty last night when the school compound took a direct hit.

The director of the UN general commissioner’s office in Gaza Adnan Abu Hasanah said that another UN facility, the Ash-Shouka School in Rafah, in the southern Gaza Strip, was also bombarded. At this time there were no details available about the civilians who had taken shelter in the school.

UNRWA is strongly protesting these killings to the Israeli authorities and is calling for an immediate and impartial investigation.
“Where it is found that international humanitarian law has been violated, those responsible must be held to account,” UNRWA said.

Well before the current fighting, UNRWA said it had given to the Israeli authorities the GPS co-ordinates of all its installations in Gaza, including Asma Elementary School.

http://maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=34665