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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 07:47 PM
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Gaza video genuine, journalists say (CNN)
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Mashharawi's video footage originally appeared on British television's Channel 4 and later on CNN. It showed futile attempts by doctors to resuscitate Mashharawi's 12-year-old brother, Mahmoud, after he and his 14-year-old cousin, Ahmed, had been wounded in what the family said was a rocket attack from a remote-controlled drone Sunday. Video Watch doctors try and save the boy »

Ahmed also was taken to the hospital, but he had been fatally struck in the head and chest by shrapnel and had lost a foot, Hamdouna said. Hamdouna said the hospital records reported Ahmed's age as 16, not 14, as the family said.

At the time of the attack, the family said, the two boys were playing on the rooftop of the family's three-story house. The video showed a blood-splattered area where an explosion had taken place and where shrapnel had pierced the roof.

Mashharawi has regularly worked with World News and Features since 2004, Martin said. His multimedia company serves television, radio and newspapers.

Martin said accusations that Mashharawi owns a company that hosts Hamas Web sites were falsely based on Mashharawi having worked at a company that created the PS suffix to allow anyone of any political persuasion to create Palestinian Web sites.

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Before bloggers made their accusations, Mashharawi told CNN, "I believed at that moment if I didn't record that nobody will believe what's happened to my brother. Because it is unbelievable. Until now, I can't believe what's happened."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/09/gaza.video.accusations/index.html
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 08:03 PM
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1. CNN does not mention specifics about the accusations of Pallywood
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 08:04 PM by shira
Here are the comments from a doctor who viewed the video:


"I’m no military expert, but I am a doctor, and this video is bullsh-t. The chest compressions that were being performed at the beginning of this video were absolutely, positively fake. The large man in the white coat was NOT performing CPR on that child. He was just sort of tapping on the child’s sternum a little bit with his fingers. You can’t make blood flow like that. Furthermore, there’s no point in doing chest compressions if you’re not also ventilating the patient somehow. In this video, I can’t tell for sure if the patient has an endotracheal tube in place, but you can see that there is nobody bag-ventilating him (a bag is actually hanging by the head of the bed), and there is no ventilator attached to the patient. In a hospital, during a code on a ventilated patient, somebody would probably be bagging the patient during the chest compressions. And they also would have moved the bed away from the wall, so that somebody could get back there to intubate the patient and/or bag him. In short, the “resuscitation scene” at the beginning is fake, and it’s a pretty lame fake at that.

So the question is, were they re-enacting the resuscitation scene by repeating their actions on a corpse, because the child had died earlier? It’s likely that the answer is no, that child is still alive, and is just an actor pretending to be a child who was killed. Why do I say that? Because the big guy in the white coat, if he’s really a doctor, nurse, nurse’s aid, EMT, or any sort of health care provider at all would be entirely aware that tickling the boy’s sternum doesn’t really look like actual chest compressions. If the boy was dead, the man would have done a more convincing job in compressing the chest. The taps on the chest that he’s doing are the sort of thing you see in bad TV dramas, when you don’t want to make the poor actor playing the victim uncomfortable by really pushing on his chest. I think the man in the white coat knows this child is actually alive, and is making the simulated chest compressions gentle so as not to hurt the child. My guess is that he assumed the videographer, like those on better TV shows, would have been smart enough not to film as far down as the man’s hands on the chest.
"


It will be interesting to see if and how many other doctors concur.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 08:12 PM
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:12 PM
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3. You can see the bed going up and down
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 10:19 PM by Mojorabbit
underneath the child if you look closely. I had to watch that section several times to make sure that is what I was seeing. It is an odd way of doing compressions though and I cannot see if the child is being ventilated in any way. Twenty years as a critical care nurse here.

on edit the child also has tape about the mouth in the place where you would tape a endotrach tube. The monitor looks as though there might be a fine v fib but I can't see it well enough.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:20 PM
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4. A defector (high-level Finance Minister) from Nigeria has a similar message
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 10:51 PM by Alamuti Lotus
By that I mean, an anonymous scam that circles the web like a virus. Only, the latter fellow is offering money instead of mere reassurance to the faithful.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:28 PM
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5. Where's the link?
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 10:29 PM by scarletwoman
Aside from the utter vileness of attempting to excuse the slaughter that's going on in Gaza, it's additionally insulting that you post this with no attribution.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:48 PM
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7. here's the original
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 11:06 PM
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10. littlegreenfootballs?!?! That bunch of white supremacist KKK racists?!?! And someone on DU
is posting THEIR shit to support their side of an argument?!?!

Wow. That is fucking SICK!

Unfuckingbelievable!

sw
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:29 AM
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13. Littlegreenfootballs is a hate-site.
Anyone linking to that dump should be ashamed.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:53 PM
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8. Be careful, Shira, you are being quite unreasonable.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:57 PM
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9. So please post the link for your exerpt
show us just where you got it from otherwise it appears to be BS
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:12 AM
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14. The source for the excerpt is LGFer 'Last Mohican.'
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 09:26 AM by Scurrilous
Hmmmm...an LGF aficionado who claims to be a doctor.

Could it be?



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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 03:09 AM
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12. Wow, the extremes of denial you and your allies at the hate site you clipped this excerpt from is
something you might want to think about. Hundreds of children, hundreds of women, and hundreds of men have been slaughtered. Yet you post this trash from the racist LGF site as if that garbage somehow means that none of those mass murders ever happened? Think about that, and what it says about you, if you can.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:43 PM
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6. One so called doctor who thinks he knows it all spews his blatently biased opinion on a tiny clip of
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 10:43 PM by Arrowhead2k1
images and suddenly all those desperately looking for straws starts grasping!

How pathetically vile.
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okiru109 Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 11:17 PM
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11. but was the drone?
how many companies make such a thing?

maybe the remote control was on the fritz and they can get a new one for free... that may be worth looking into.
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