Israel geht hart gegen Verweigerer und Demonstranten vor Translation: Israel's harsh measures ....

[DogPoundPup]

Translation: Israel's harsh measures against demonstrators and objectors

Sie sind eine Minderheit, aber ihre Zahl wächst: Israelische Kriegsdienstverweigerer machen mobil gegen die Militärangriffe im Gaza-Streifen. Der Staat reagiert mit Härte: Demonstranten werden festgenommen, Verweigerer landen im Knast.

Translation: They are a minority, but their number is growing: Israeli conscientious objectors make mobile against the military attacks in the Gaza Strip. The government responded with a hardness of demonstrators are arrested, objectors land in prison.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,600398,00.html

[ZombieHorde]

1. Are you saying, that this article is claiming, that Isreal is locking up protesters?

My reading comprehension is very poor today.

[DogPoundPup]

2. Yes

[Shaktimaan]

8. I think you might be misunderstanding this.

Protesting is not a crime in Israel. Conscientious objecting is though. I could be wrong but it seems like these people were arrested for not responding when they were called up to do reserve service.

They held the protest with the understanding that they would be arrested and draw media attention to the political statement they are making. And in Israel, conscientious onjecting is a pretty serious comment on the level of these protesters' commitment to their cause.

[DogPoundPup]

13. 700 arrested on suspicion of rioting since start of Gaza op

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3654246,00.html

AND ISRAELL govt. gets to determine what violent is.

[Idealism]

3. In Israel, there is compulsory military service

And there is a growing group of conscientious objectors who do not want to fight in an army that illegally occupies territories. They are called Shministim

http://december18th.org/

[DogPoundPup]

4. PROOF: Video of RealNews Covering this ...

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=3065&updaterx=2009-01-09+12%3A02%3A03

[ZombieHorde]

5. Sad.

[Loudmxr]

6. Meanwhile the ultra orthodox Jews get out of serving. Too busy prayin'

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[Shaktimaan]

9. Well, yes, that's a disgusting loophole in an otherwise admirable system. np

[asteroid2003QQ47]

10. You would eliminate conscientious objector status then? eom

[Shaktimaan]

11. hat are you talking about?

everyone else has to serve. i believe that the orthodox should not be exempted.

[asteroid2003QQ47]

12. hat am I talking about?

Chickenhawks! It's Chickenhawks I'm talking about.
Your profile would seem to indicate you are safely thousands of miles
away from both the heat of battle and the prisons holding those whose conscience dictates they persue non-violent options.

http://december18th.org/
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