Syria's anti-Semitic 'Diaspora' to air each night of Ramadan

[Herschel]

Syria's month-long Ramadan TV special, "Diaspora", has begun airing on Hizbullah's Al-Manar satellite television channel. Echoing last Ramadan's Egyptian series "Knight Without a Horse" based on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, "Diaspora" suggests a global Jewish government as it presents a version of the story of Zionism from 1812 to the establishment of the State of Israel.

As translated by MEMRI, Episode 1 is preceded by the text: "Two thousand years ago, the Jewish sages established a global government, aimed at ruling the world..." Then, in the first scene, Amschel Rothschild lies on his deathbed and tells his sons, ""Kill the best of the non-Jews, destroy their religion, annihilate their lands."

In another scene, Dreyfuss and Herzl meet at a brothel, where a Jewish prostitute lies dying and says, "I implore you, send me only Christian clients. I don't want any Jew to be infected by me."

The series will air each night of the month-long festival of Ramadan. It is available to satellite viewers in Europe and the United States.


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This is state sponsored hatred. Undoubtedly, some will defend it. Oh, my.

[Darranar]

1. You think some will defend it?

You really think so?

I don't.

This is state-sponsored hatred, and deserves to be condemned.

[GabysPoppy]

9. Actually yes i do think some will defend it

In fact you indirectly defended it in another thread. You said the Zuckerman article was all about generalizations. I'm sure you read the piece because i know you wouldn't make an accusation of an article without reading it.

Here is a small piece from that article that you dismissed as just a "generalization"

"In the Muslim world, a culture of hatred of Jews permeates all forms of public communications--newspapers, videocassettes, sermons, books, the Internet, television, and radio."

Yet here you condemn it. It's really not fair to take both sides of the issue.

[Darranar]

11. Say someone said this:

"All Jews are bloodthirsty fools who love killing innocent people." And then he said: "George W. Bush is a horrible president."

Does your condemnation of his anti-semitic remarks mean that you disagree with him that George Bush is a horrible president? By attacking his generalizing remarks, are you defending George W. Bush?

I doubt it.

Let's be reasonable here.

[GabysPoppy]

14. If you want to make sense, maybe we can have a duscussion

If this is your example of being "reasonable", I am at a total loss.

[Darranar]

15. I said that the article made generalizations...

citing a paragraph excerpted by drdon. Also, the basic premise of the article - that anti-Zionism is the new form of anti-semetism - is a generalization, since many anti Zionists are not at all anti-semitic.

Because I disagree with his generalizations does not mean that I disagree with everything he said, or that I am defending everyone he attacked and condemned.

As i said in the post above, someone calling out someone else for his anti-semitic remarks does not mean that everything that someone had said was wrong, or that the condemner believed so.

[GabysPoppy]

16. So tell me this

What part of this article do you agree with?

[Darranar]

17. The fact that...

such things as what the article in this thread describes exist.

[Violet_Crumble]

21. That small piece was a generalisation...

While in places like Syria that's true, I didn't realise the 'Muslim world' didn't include Indonesia (the most populous Muslim nation on earth) or SE Asian nations where that's not the case. Not unless you actually have some evidence to support yr claim otherwise...

Violet...

[dfong63]

2. true, this is extremely crude

... compared with the anti-muslim propaganda the people are force-fed every day.

[rini]

20. I defy you to name

one TV show on US, British, or even French TV that has Muslems drinking their enemies blood. One textbook that calls them decendents of pigs and apes. Until you can prove that, you are at best an exaggerator, at worst an @@##$$--#$$%^^^

[Coyul]

3. There is a huge difference...

...between anti-semitism, and anti-zionism.

[ThorsteinVeblen]

6. And Damascus can't make a distinction

Truly disgusting. What the hell is wrong with the Muslim world? This program is truly Nazi stuff.

[Muddleoftheroad]

8. You answered your own question

Anyone in the Muslim world who supports this supports its predecessors.

[The Magistrate]

13. A Pleasure To See Your Comment, Mr. Veblen

[ForestsBeatBushes]

22. I think

it is a pleasure to see all 3 comments: yours, Mr. Veblen's and MuddleOfTheRoad's.

[rini]

10. Sadly

anti-zionism is often a mask for anti-semitism.

[Name removed]

4. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Muddleoftheroad]

5. What obsession, anti-semitism

This sure as hell seems like an important story to me.

[Herschel]

7. It seems, my friend

Condemnations of this will be hard to come by here. Perhaps a story on olive tree destruction would rasie ire.

[Darranar]

12. Actually, I doubt that you're right.

[Forkboy]

18. I condemn it

though your comments make it difficult.

We'll look for future condemnations from you on other issues.

[Herschel]

29. As your fellow progressive

I am pleased with your condemnation.

[Jim Sagle]

24. Splodeydope kills Jews, it's "Ho hum."

Palestinian gets a hangnail, it's
"Omigod!!! Denounce the Zionist pigs!!"

'twas ever thus.

[Scurrilous]

34. Which is worse?

A state sponsored anti-semetic television program or a state sponsored destruction of people's livelyhood? You would expect people to react more strongly to the latter and they do.

[Name removed]

44. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Adalah]

19. Very bad news

State sponsored hate programming harms those watching it as well as those falsely portrayed.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

23. That is so true.

It can even turn people into suicide bombers, I've seen.

[Jim Sagle]

25. You're generalizing again.

;)

[bluesoul]

26. I love this quote

Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader, I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? ...They only see one thing: we came here and stole their country. Why should they accept that?" David Ben-Gurion as quoted in The Jewish Paradox by Nathan Goldman, former president of the World Jewish Congress.


:shrug:

[ForestsBeatBushes]

32. and so timely as well!

When was that stated? 1948?

[bluesoul]

33. Message matters

The message still stands after so many time (of occupation)...

[ForestsBeatBushes]

36. Precisely

which is why I wonder why so many of you can't stand it when the past provides a prologue for so many of us.

Double standard, I'm sure.

[rini]

45. Please give a better source

I looked but could not find these quotes.

[The Magistrate]

47. The Chief Problem With Quotes Like This, Mr. Soul

Is that, as you well know, they are stripped wholly from context, and represent nothing by compare to the totality of a major figure's speech over a decade's long career. Mr. Ben-Gurion early in his career urged the formation of a Jewish Legion to fight for the Ottoman against England; Mr. Ben-Gurion toward the end of his career, and his life, urged that Israel speedily retire from the lands overrun in '67: which of these isolated instances would you suggest, Sir, best sums up the man and his views?

The statement above reflects no more than a shrewd fellow displaying some understanding of how a conflict he is involved in looks to the other side. It is not a species of "confession" of the "true character" of the Zionist enterprise, nor an agreement that the opponent's view is the "real truth" of the matter, as it is clearly your intent to present it as. My stating, for example, that the Islamic fundamentalist radicals who attacked New York two years ago believed they were in a holy battle for the preservation of Islam against the determination of the un-believing West to root it out from the world, is hardly an agreement with that view. Understanding the mind of an opponent is an essential ingredient for success in any conflict. Mr. Ben-Gurion succeeded: Mufti Al'Husseini failed. Part of the reason for that was that Mr. Ben-Gurion was capable of the sort of statement you have quoted, and Mufti Al'Husseini never had the least capability to understand and express the reality of his opponent's views. He would have been able to fight them much more effectively if he had been.

[_Jumper_]

27. How can this happen in 2003?

:eyes:

[Muddleoftheroad]

28. Why should 2003 be different

Than any other year?

[ForestsBeatBushes]

30. Your subject title made me LOL!

Sorry, but it 'sounds' so "Jewish"!

So, why should 2003 be different?

Seriously, though, you are correct: why should it be? It's not one thing after another...it's the same damn thing over and over and over and over and... (to coin a phrase).

[Lurking Dem]

31. chuckle

Thanks. I needed that.

[GabysPoppy]

35. The reasoning for the airing of this program is obvious

It must be "ratings week" in Syria.

In the US, networks air special programs to drive up the fees for advertising which are ratings based.

In Syria, they use ratings week to drive up contributions to terrorist organizations.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

37. ROFLMAO!

You're funny ... even though you're 'management'!

[GabysPoppy]

39. Mr Forest

I moderate as management's representative.

I post as a member of DU.

But you are great judge of Humor. Laughter is the performer's pay check and I will cash yours immediately.

Thank you


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[Name removed]

40. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

41. Oh, jeez!

Look at the top of the forum.

The moderators for this forum are not Mr. Poppy.

Are you having problems with deletions of posts on the forums where he is the moderator?

[Lithos]

42. Mr. Bluesoul

In addition to the I/P forum having different rules, only the two I/P moderators are allowed by DU Administration to maintain it. There are explicit instructions that the I/P forum is out of bounds for other moderators to work.

Your comment to GabysPoppy is based completely on ignorance and is a cheap and demeaning shot against someone who has spent a good amount of their time volunteering to maintain the GD forum. I can assure you that the GD forum is no easy task and GabysPoppy has done an excellent job in that difficult forum.

Lithos
FA/NS Moderator
Democratic Underground

[bluesoul]

43. Well

Maybe I wasn't fair, but I made the assumption based on what is deleted and what is NOT deleted. And when you see that someone has clearly taken a side, moderating or even helping moderate can become a big problem in I/P discussions. There's were my problem is. When some statements are offensive to someone, yet a similar one aimed at the other side is not. I believe it's not an easy task moderating such discussions or making decisions but I have a bad feeling that the rules are not equal to all. Sorry to say so...

[Lithos]

46. Moderators

Most of the moderators on this board were obviously quite active before they assumed the volunteer role. As such, it is not fair to expect them to cloister themselves up while a mod. All that is expected of them to do is comport themselves with a much higher standard of behavior.

As for any obvious slant in deletions, I've glanced at the post deletions (we save a copy for the records) and at first blush it looks fairly equal to me based on the number of posters on each side.

Lithos

[Scurrilous]

38. If it's ratings week...

..then it's imperative we watch.

Link to Al-Manar TV feed:

http://web.manartv.org/html/live/livefeed.html

[DuctapeFatwa]

48. What channel is this on in the US? Or are you all in Syria?

I know that no one on this board would comment on a show they hadn't seen in its entirety.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

49. Why not? People comment on all sorts of things

all the time.

Perhaps this show is accessible on the web - anyone know?

[DuctapeFatwa]

52. Good point. Let's face it, anyone can comment on a show they've seen

But to generate this much impassioned text about a show you haven't seen requires real imagination, creativity, and chutzpah!

[ForestsBeatBushes]

54. LOL

Thanks for giving me a dose of your reputed humor - much appreciated.

[bemildred]

50. It said somewhere it would be available in the US and UK

via Dish. Not having a TV, I guess I'll have to miss out.

[The Magistrate]

51. You Impress Me Ever More Favorably, Mr. Mildred

[bemildred]

53. It's like quitting smoking.

Once you have beaten the addiction, you see what
a filthy, disgusting habit it is ...

But seriously, the less I watch it, the less I find
I am able to watch it. It immediately bores me now.
Some vaporhead with helmet hair reading his designated
sentences at you, generally with at best limited
comprehension of what he is saying.
:puke: