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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:20 AM
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Defending the Indefensible - HARVARD CRIMSON
Less than one year ago, Israel launched its attack on Gaza, in which over 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis were killed. According to the report of the U.N. Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict, headed by preeminent South African jurist Justice Richard Goldstone, Israel deliberately targeted civilians during the attack. Among other things, Israeli forces deliberately targeted educational institutions, destroying or damaging at least 280 schools and kindergartens during the war.

The devastating impact on Gaza’s schools should be of special concern to an institution dedicated to education such as Harvard. Instead, on November 23 Harvard extended an invitation to Michael B. Oren—the Israeli ambassador to the United States—to speak at the Kennedy School. Fittingly, he was rejected by students who attended the event. Oren is a former officer and paratrooper who served as an Israeli army spokesperson during the unwarranted and illegal attacks on Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2009.

While the university envisioned a warm reception, it must be recorded that the students took a clear stance against impunity for war crimes. During the question-and-answer session, the vast majority of questions and comments leveled at Oren were critical of his actions and statements on the Gaza invasion and the Goldstone report.

One student read a quote by Oren in which he compared the Goldstone report to the Holocaust. She then asked, “Why do you make such hyperbolic statements? Don’t you think it cheapens the memory of Jews killed?” Oren denied making the statement, which he wrote in an article for The New Republic. Many other questions and statements equally rattled Oren. Students showed that they are unwilling to stay silent when a uniformed spin doctor tries to rewrite recent history.

more http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/12/14/oren-harvard-students-crimes
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chandler2 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:23 AM
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1. Shouldn't matter whether he's UNinformed or totally INformed. nt
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:57 AM
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3. That's 'uniformed' not 'uninformed' - referencing his spinning of the
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 11:57 AM by RaleighNCDUer
military adventures he himself participated in.

"Oren is a former officer and paratrooper who served as an Israeli army spokesperson during the unwarranted and illegal attacks on Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2009."
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:41 PM
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7. He's both uniformed AND uninformed!
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:34 AM
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2. he compared the Goldstone report to the Holocaust.
Michael Oren is not credible because of that statement. It does cheapen and demean the loss of so many Jews in the Holocaust. Good for the student that asked that question. Also, if there was any doubt that Oren is not credible, he wouldn't have additionally lied about making the statement.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:59 AM
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4. +1
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:12 PM
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5. +1
nt
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:20 PM
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12. What part of he DENIED it don't YOU
and they get?

Duh-uh!
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:14 PM
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6. Classic "I don't like what they say so they must not be allowed to say it"
Sorry bubba, academic freedom means your desire for censorship is rejected.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:43 PM
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8. I don't like Oren; but free speech cannot be only for some...
Rather than preventing Oren from speaking, it would be better to get a pro-Palestinian spokesman to speak.
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:44 PM
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9. K&R
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:13 PM
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10. In a article about the Gaza conflict "rocket' wasn't mentioned once.
BULLSHIT
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:59 PM
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11. "de rockets" are nothing but zionist propaganda.....they're little harmless firecrackers
:sarcasm:
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:21 PM
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13. But but but Jewish self defense is......
INDEFENSIBLE!!!!!!!!

Didn't get the memo did ya?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 02:05 AM
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14. Long live Meir Kahane and Jewish self-defense! n/t
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 06:03 AM
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15. The murder of 300 kids is self-defense? I'll remember that if someone breaks into my home. nt
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:52 PM
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16. there's no such thing as Jewish self-defense, just aggression and deliberate oppression
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 07:53 PM by shira
you didn't get the memo?

:eyes:
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