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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:51 AM
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Iraq to sue Israel over destroyed reactor
Iraqi MP says UN resolution backs suit against Israel for bombing Tammuz nuclear reactor in 1981

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3830059,00.html

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"An Iraqi parliament member said Tuesday that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki plans to sue Israel for damages done to his country following its destruction of the Tammuz nuclear reactor.

The Air Force bombed the site in 1981. Now, 29 years later, al-Maliki has instructed the Foreign Ministry in Baghdad to clarify with the UN whether it would be possible to extract compensation from Israel.

An Iraqi source told the German DPA that MP Mohammad Naji said UN Resolution 487, approved after the strike, allowed his country to sue Israel.

"Al-Maliki's appeal follows an answer received from the UN Secretariat by the government of Iraq on November 25, which says Iraq has a right to demand compensation for the damage Israel did to it with the attack on the reactor, through a neutral committee which will assess the extent of the damage," the report says."
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:52 AM
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1. Fuck Iraq
Israel did the right thing.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:09 AM
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2. Matter of opinion
Just like Bush did the right thing in invading Iraq before the Afghan campaign was complete! At least that's what many people actually believe!

Besides, this isn't the same Iraq, this one is now represented by a democratically elected government, which is persuing it's rights as a sovereign nation.

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:18 PM
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3. Right in your mind

Illegal in the international community's.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/un487.htm
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 07:05 PM
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9. Iraq was at technically at war with Israel
It refused to even discuss an armistice, much less sign a peace treaty with Israel.

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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 03:57 PM
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6. Would it be the right thing to destroy all of Israel's nuclear facilities and ........... their
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 03:58 PM by polly7
nukes????? (You know ......... all those secret ones .....shhhhh).
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 06:15 PM
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8. We already frakked Iraq on behalf of the Israel Lobby
and we lost over 4,000 GIs to keep you guys happy.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 09:29 AM
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12. Please stop letting right-wing extremists post from your account (n.t.)
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:23 PM
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4. As I always say, suing your enemy is better than bombing them
However, if one were to list the countries that REALLY deserve to be sued by Iraq, Israel wouldn't be at the top of the list.

One day, maybe they'll be able to do what I'm implying. A sobering thought.

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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 02:03 PM
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5. Iraq has no right to sue.
At the time of the strike, Iraq was in a declared (by Iraq) state of war against Israel). That gives Israel the right to engage in acts of war against Iraq. Ex post facto UN resolutions can't change that.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:20 AM
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13. By your "reasoning"
you would equally approve and cheer ("state of war justifies everything") if Iraq, or any other nation Israel is technically still at war with, destroyed all of Israel's nuclear facilities and weapons.

Of course you would not. That post was just more insincere mouthings of some RW talking points that you would utterly reject if the tables were turned and the bombings had been against Israel. That two-standards BS is as pathetic and tiresome as it is transparent and depraved.

"Hooray! It's the law! I'm so happy!" Would you say that then? Well, no need to answer, since your standard is far simpler that anything so abstract or universal. If those in control of the state of Israel, no matter how sick and murderous, do it, you will come up with some BS blather to justify it. But if the same rationale is used to excuseacts of violence against Israel, you will howl and wail and scream about how that same rationale is utter BS and the crime was one against humanity.

Well, maybe that gets close. Humanity, for many of your type, the supremacists, does not include Palestinians or Iraqis or -- well, you complete the list. Saudis, Afghans, Danes, Brits, Europeans, peace activists, liberals and progressives, the rest of the planet?
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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:59 AM
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14. No. That's not my reasoning.
You left out the big part. Iraq created the state of war. Israel never attacked Iraq before Iraq attacked Israel. See post 10 below for a list. Second, Israel hasn't threatened Iraq. It's the other way around. Third, I wouldn't like it if Iraq attacked Israel's reactor, but I wouldn't support Israel suing Iraq either. So your cheap effort to brand me as a hypocrite falls apart. Of course it would, since it's just a pathetic thin excuse for demonizing and smearing people you disagree with.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 06:14 PM
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7. LMAO
Poetic justice!
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henank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 07:31 AM
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10. An Israeli blogger comments:
"How cute... a member of the newborn Iraqi parliament has just issued his government's first official anti-Israel screed. This is surely an encouraging sign that they are ready to take their place among the mature-but-dysfunctional Arab governments of the region in attacking Israel as a means of distracting their populations from just how bad things are at home. but I agree that we should give the compensation issue serious consideration. But in fairness, Israel isn't exactly alone in causing death and destruction. So let's just take a closer look, shall we?:

IRAQI ATTACKS AGAINST ISRAEL:

Gulf War I - Iraq launched an unprovoked Scud Missile attack on Tel Aviv and surrounding areas during the 1991 Gulf war in which Israel was not even a combatant. We were pressured by the U.S. to absorb the missiles without retaliating, but for weeks life in Israel - school, work, sleep, etc. - was lived in sealed rooms with gas masks within easy reach. Without America's pressure, your country would be a smoldering crater where Iranians and Kuwaitis could conveniently dump their trash.

1973 Yom Kippur War- Iraq sent 30,000 troops, 400 (approx.) tanks, 500 armored personnel carriers (APCs), 200 fully equipped artillery units and 73 combat aircraft to participate in the unprovoked surprise attack on Israel (on the holiest day of the Jewish Calendar) with the intention of wiping us out. Your tanks were especially deadly to the beleaguered Israeli forces trying to push back the Syrian advance in the Golan Heights. Just when our army was starting to gain a foothold on the heights, the Iraqis attacked the exposed southern flank and forced a temporary retreat of the leading forces to keep the IDF from being encircled.

1967 Six Day War- Iraq sent a full infantry Division, two squadrons of fighter-aircraft (Hawker Hunters and MiG 21s respectively) and an undisclosed amount of armor. You even managed to get one of your Tu-16 bombers shot out of the sky as it was trying to bomb Tel Aviv. Again, an unprovoked attack on a peaceful nation with the intent to wipe us out of existence.

1948 War of Independence- Iraq sent 18,000 Infantry troops (including four infantry brigades, one armored battalion and associated support personnel) to take part in destroying the Jewish State. This was the start of your murderous involvement in repeated attempts to push us into the sea. You had no dog in the fight and stood to lose nothing by our existence. And yet... our Jewishness apparently provoked you beyond all reason.

ISRAELI ATTACKS AGAINST IRAQ:

June 1981 - Israel, fearing that if your country joined the nuclear club would use nuclear weapons in subsequent conflicts (you hadn't missed a war with us, yet), chose a quiet Sunday morning (when we figured all the worker would be home) and sent eight F-16 multi-role fighters and six F-15s escorts to bomb your nuclear reactor. As a result of our caution and planning, only ten Iraqi soldiers and one French scientist were killed in the attack.

So let's review, shall we? Your country has actively and enthusiastically participated in most of the unprovoked armed aggression waged against Israel since the day it came into being (even though we had no argument with you). We, on the other hand have only attacked you once, and then only to prevent you form carrying out your repeated threats to destroy us. This says nothing of the Jewish assets that your government happily confiscated from the fleeing Jewish population and the priceless Babylonian era Jewish heritage that you stole or destroyed.

So, if we if we do a rough calculation of property destroyed and life lost as a result of our countries' respective armed aggression against one another... assign updated values, taking into account the fluctuation in currencies... potential earnings of all the dead and the cost of lifetime care for all the injured parties... carry the 2... adjust for inflation... hmmmmm, it seems to me you guys owe us approximately 1000 times what we owe you. Incredible, no?

Cash or Credit card will be fine. Sorry... no cheques. You know, we'd even call it even for some of the remaining Jewish treasures from the Babylonian era that you haven't managed to destroy. Deal?

Oh BTW, it's worth mentioning that Iran also attacked the Osirak facility the year before Israel did, causing extensive damage and killing an unknown number of personnel. I'm assuming you are also seeking compensation from Iran, yes? If so, be sure to let us know how that turns out, mmkay?"
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henank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 08:38 AM
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11. Sorry, forgot the link
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