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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 08:03 PM Original message |
Lula visits Arafat tomb, officials fume |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. Things are certainly shaking up over there, aren't they! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I don't reckon he will be invited back real soon. |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. How dare he lay a wreath at their terrorist and not ours. Outrage I say. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. How is Theodor Herzl a terrorist? nt |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 05:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Herzle wasn't, but e.g. numerous prime ministers of Israel have been. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. His dream of displacing an indigenous people with Eastern and Western European settlers |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. To clarify - you do or do not believe that Theodor Herzl was a terrorist? |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Of course not, any more than Karl Marx was a dictator. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. The question was directed to the poster above based on their comments |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I would not describe Altneuland as prescient. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Let's not allow Oberliner to hijack the thread. Bottom line: Lula stands in solidarity with the |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Glad that Lula does not support the BDS nonsense |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. How do you conflate this attitude with the one you express in post #19? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. If you think "BDS" will lead to Israel "agreeing to a settlement" you are not living on Earth |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. It was with respect to the fate of the Jews in Europe |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. The poster above won't be taking any more questions from Oberliner until you state your |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. As I've stated a million times - The Geneva Initiative accurately represents my position |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Do you condemn Israel's ongoing expropriation of Arab properties and neighborhoods in E. J'lem? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. There are a quarter of a million Arabs living in East Jerusalem |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. You didn't answer the question PM asked you. So, can you please answer it? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. You've just slandered me in another thread |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No, I didn't, and it was PM who asked you the question originally... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Do you deny that the realization of Herzl's dream in Israel absolutely included |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Herzl never advocated violence against anyone |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. True, but slightly incomplete. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. You can't displace an indigenous population without violence. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Herzl didn't envisage the Palestinians being displaced. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Again, I'm sorry the second poster on this board ever call Herzl a terrorist... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Who said anything about defending Zionism? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. My beef is not with you. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I'm happy to talk about Brazil's relationship with Israelis and Palestinians as well |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Herzl... a terrorist? |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. I don't think Lula is an anti-Zionist or someone who would refuse to go to Herzl's grave |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. +1 |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
14. "...a fearless and courageous people fighting for their dignity, freedom and democracy." |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Lula wants a permanent seat on the Security Council of the UN, I hope that he gets it. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Me too. Brazil is one of the relatively hopeful political stories of our time |
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