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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 08:28 PM
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Israel needs a Leftist revolution to stop the fascism
A social-democratic revolution on the left is the necessary condition to stop the time of fascism exemplified by a loyalty oath to a 'Jewish and democratic state.'
By Daniel Gutwein


Letting street-corner fascism seep into the halls of government is one of the ways the right wing deals with changes to how the occupation influences Israeli society. The amendment to the Citizenship Law that incorporates a loyalty oath to a "Jewish and democratic state" is one example of this.

The intention behind the amendment is made clear, paradoxically, by the opposition it arouses among those who view Israel today as already being Jewish and democratic: Dan Meridor sees it as an unnecessary provocation of Arab citizens, and Isaac Herzog defines it as a disclosure of fascism. As such, those who oppose the amendment claim, it is intended to appease extremist coalition partners. It appears, however, that the loyalty the amendment seeks to prove is actually that of voters on the right, especially those for whom the government's economic policy is undermining their social security.

Since 1977, the occupation has served the right wing as a mechanism with which to compensate the victims of privatization: The housing and generous social services offered in the settlements supplanted the workings of the welfare state. The policy of privatization may be the common enterprise of left and right, but its victims tend to favor the right, because it is identified with the continuation of the occupation and its system of compensations, and also because they loathe the left for the neo-liberal peace it offers, out of a concern that the end of the occupation and the abolition of that system will turn them into economic "victims of peace."

However, in Benjamin Netanyahu's second term as prime minister, such compensations have been losing their effectiveness. Unskilled Jewish laborers are subject to tough competition from foreign workers, while the construction freeze damaged the most significant return offered by the settlements - housing.

Along with these reduced benefits, some on the right now have to deal with the transformation of fascism from scattered, isolated "weeds" to an official policy. The change in the loyalty oath making citizenship dependent on loyalty; the revocation of citizenship; and the incitement against foreign workers being advanced by Netanyahu, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Interior Minister Eli Yishai intend to raise the price of citizenship in order to provide a substitute for the occupation's once-desirable advantages.

This is the way a privatizing regime completes its task: by turning social services from citizens' rights into merchandise which is gained via the merchandising of citizenship itself. In this way fascism replaces the occupation as a mechanism of compensation; the grip on the occupation, which becomes desperate as its usefulness shrinks, nurtures fascism. And so fascism is, therefore, a continuation of the occupation by other means, and as such it imports the logic of occupation rule into Israel itself.

The completion of the privatization process will eliminate the need for the occupation to provide compensation, and enable the right-wing stands expressed in Netanyahu's Bar-Ilan University speech to be realized. At the same time, in light of deepened social gaps caused by privatization, fascism becomes an internal Israeli mechanism of compensation, through which the privatizing regime strengthens its hold on society. In this way, as fascism inherits the occupation's role as a mechanism of compensation, the occupation changes its function and turns into a justification for the deepening of fascism.


http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/israel-needs-a-leftist-revolution-to-stop-the-fascism-1.323717
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 08:34 PM
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1. We need one just as badly n/t
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Dick Dastardly Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 10:07 PM
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12. Only if one needs a hole in the head and likes misery. n/t
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Creative Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 08:36 PM
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2. Actually, I think most Israelis are more concerned about keeping Hamas
and the real fascists at bay.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 08:38 PM
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3. If that's true, then most Israelis are hypocrities considering they've got real fascists in govt...
Surely yr not trying to make out that there aren't real fascists in the Israeli government?
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ProgressiveMajority Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 08:41 PM
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18. Yup. To the Israeli's obessed about Hamas facism I say Doctor, heal thyself n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 04:25 AM
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25. It is possible to think...
that BOTH the Israelis and Palestinians would be better off without far-right-wingers in government.

Hamas are a bunch of far RW extremist nutters who are fascists toward their own people, as well as violent hawks toward the Israelis. None of this excuses the likes of Avigdor Lieberman, Shas, and the rest of the RW extremists in Israeli politics. But they are.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 05:04 AM
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26. And clearly that's not what some folk think, hence the refererence to 'real fascists'...
Edited on Thu Nov-11-10 05:43 AM by Violet_Crumble
There seems to be some confusion by some in this thread as to what constitutes fascism...

on edit: on rereading yr post, did you reply to me instead of post #2 by mistake? It's just that what you said doesn't make sense in reply to me as I'm not the one who posted something about Israelis being too busy keeping Hamas and the real fascists at bay...
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arcticken Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 01:30 PM
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15. Kudos for knowing what real
fascists are.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:18 PM
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20. You don't know what real fascists are...
The article's talking about real fascist stuff, but you appear to be working off some self-made definition of fascism that goes: 'anyone I disagree with is a fascist, especially if they're Arab or Muslim. There is no such thing as Israeli fascists'.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 01:13 AM
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28. Why don't you explain what 'real fascism' is...
I know I'm very interested to see what sort of definition you'll come up with :)
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 08:43 PM
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4. Leftism needs a self-purification to cleanse itself of the fascism that now infects it.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 08:48 PM
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5. Fascism is infecting the Right, not the Left n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:37 PM
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7. Our resident authority has spoken, haw haw haw.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 09:37 PM by Jim Sagle
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:50 PM
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8. The OP is about fascism creeping into Israeli politics. The Israeli govt is not Leftist n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:54 PM
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10. So I widened the topic to include this folder and others like it. Is that so wrong?
;)
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:57 PM
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11. I'll leave you to attack the Left on yr own and stick to folk who want to discuss the OP...
;)
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 10:18 PM
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13. What is your take on the OP?
You haven't really shared any of your thoughts on it.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 10:25 AM
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32. It's not fascist to be sympathetic to the Palestinians
Even YOU can't really believe that it is.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:05 AM
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35. There's nothing "fascist" in this folder.
You can't seriously be saying that supporting the Palestinian people in their struggle for self-determination is equivalent to fascism.

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 08:36 PM
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36. Oh, I think there's some fascism on this folder.
Just in other places than what the poster is suggesting.
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ishaneferguson Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:34 PM
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6. Israel was a utopianist-socialist state until the 1973 Yom Kippur War - NT
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 09:51 PM
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9. Sadly, there's more than a few Americans who try to pretend it still is n/t
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alanquatermass Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 04:04 AM
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14. Exactly, Violet!
What the hell made Israel take a hard "Right" turn back in 1973???

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ishaneferguson Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 03:02 PM
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16. The Yom Kippur War. NT
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 03:44 PM
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17. The answer, I would think, is pretty obvious nt
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:30 PM
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21. I think it stopped being a socialist-utopian vision when it invaded and occupied the West Bank...
That's when things started going bad. It's nearly impossible to give the impression of being something like that when the nation was swept with invasion fever and there were celebrations over 'gaining' the Occupied Territories...
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 03:49 AM
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23. ah I have to disagree the socialist-utopian vision died
when Israel became a reality
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 10:30 AM
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33. Israel also alienated almost everyone who opposed imperialism after 1967
Why couldn't the Israeli government see that they were asking too much of the world to expect the world to defend their right to occupy the land of another people(as they clearly did after '67)?

How could they POSSIBLY think that the world owed it to Israel to back it in crushing the hopes of the Palestinian people for an independent state?

Staying in the West Bank and Gaza was NEVER a necessity for Israel's survival. And clearly the consequences of the "settlers movement"
that Ariel Sharon essentially invented in 1973 did far more harm to Israel's security than they ever could have done good.

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 04:15 AM
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24. I would agree - so long as 'revolution' means 'political' rather than 'armed' revolution
As with many countries, Israel is being damaged and endangered by its own right wing, and a return to more left-wing policies, internally and externally, would be great.

I don't think this is likely to be achieved by a rush to arms, but assume that 'revolution' is meant metaphorically here.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 12:23 AM
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27. Agreed. I thought it was peaceful revolution when I read it...
Anyone who calls for armed revolution in democracies where the RW is venturing into fascist areas is really calling for something that will damage the country every bit as much as full-blown fascism would...
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 12:10 PM
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34. Never mind "Revolution", what Israel needs is a genuine functioning left.
At present there is no mainstream leftwing political force in Israel - to the extent that a party founded by Ariel Sharon is arguably the nearest thing the Israeli left has to a standard bearer...
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