Israel fears Gaza flotilla activists may try to kill IDF soldiers

[Fozzledick]

Senior officials in Jerusalem said Monday that Israel has received information that organizers of the Gaza flotilla may be bringing chemical substances on the ships to use against Israeli soldiers to prevent them from boarding the ships.

The senior officials also said that Israel had been notified that several extremists among the Gaza flotilla participants had recently claimed that they intend on “shedding the blood of IDF soldiers.”

Moreover, despite earlier reports, it seems that activists from the Turkish organization IHH, which was involved in the deadly IDF raid on the Mavi Marmara in last year’s Gaza flotilla, will be joining several of the ships sailing for Gaza as part of the flotilla.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-fears-gaza-flotilla-activists-may-try-to-kill-idf-soldiers-1.369923

[DCKit]

1. They could just keep the IDF home and safe from harm from those bullying activists.

Somehow, I don't think that's going to happen.

[King_David]

2. Déjà vu nt

[Scurrilous]

3. I'm convinced! n/t

[classysassy]

4. Blood letting

seem to be a favorite pastime of the I.D.F.When will sanity return the support of BIBi's bullies are counter productive,the Palestinians and their supporters are seeking justice and the Israeli government is seeking more land and the destruction of hopes of the Palestinian people.The Israeli influence on capital hill is outlandish and must be removed or we will continue to be attacked by people with nothing to lose.The Jewish American community need to speak up in the name of justice before our planet is destroyed my mad men.

[classysassy]

5. Let the attacks begin

your guns are loaded with blanks,truth and justice all ways win in the end.

[tootrueleft]

6. Disinformation to create a narrative that the IDF will be acting in self defense when they murder

more activists.

Guess they're preparing with more than just naval drills....

[bemildred]

7. I don't suppose we could just let the blockade go and avoid all this unpleasantness?

Nah,that would make sense.

[shira]

8. Letter from IDF soldier describing savagery upon Marmara...

“Dear Aunt X:

This is Y writing you. As you know, it was my unit and my friends who were on the ship. My commander was injured badly as a result of the “pacifists’” violence. I want to tell you how he was injured so you can tell the story. It shows just how horrible and inhuman were the activists. My commander was the first soldier that rappelled down from the helicopter to the ship. When he touched ground, he got hit in the head with a pole and stabbed in the stomach with a knife. When he drew out his secondary weapon–a handgun, (his primary weapon was a regular paintball gun- “tippman 98 custom”), he was shot in the leg.

He managed to fire a single shot before he was tossed from the balcony by 4 Arab activists, to the lower deck (a 12 feet fall). He was then dragged by other activists to a room in the lower deck were he was stripped down by 2 activists. They took off his vest, helmet, and shirt, leaving him with only his pants and shoes on. When they finished they took a knife and expanded the wound he already had in his stomach. They cut his ab muscles horizontally and by hand spilled his guts out.

When they finished, they raised him up and walked him on the deck outside. He was conscious the whole time. If you are asking your self why they did all that here comes the reason. They wanted to show the soldiers their commanders’ body so they will be demoralized and scared. Luckily, when they walked him on the deck, a soldier saw him and managed to shoot the activist that was walking him down the outside corridor. He shot him with a special non lethal bullet that didn’t kill him. My commander managed to jump from the deck to the water and swim to an army rescue boat (his guts still out of his body and now in salty sea water). That was how he was saved. The activists that did this to him are alive and now in Turkey and treated as heroes.

I’m sorry if I described this with too many details, but I thought it was necessary for the credibility. Please tell this story to anyone who will listen. “

[Lars77]

10. Maybe he souldn't have engaged in piracy then. nt

[shira]

15. It wasn't piracy. There was no violence on any of the other ships. n/t

[Lars77]

17. hahaha! So its not piracy because most victims give up without getting shot. awesome logic.

[shira]

18. No, it's a legal blockade being properly enforced. The IDF meant no harm, that's obvious.

So I take it you have no problem with the way this IDF soldier was treated by pro-Hamas religious extremists?

[Lars77]

20. The premise of your argument is wrong.

It's an illegal blockade being illegaly enforced. I feel sad for anyone who gets hurt, regardless of who they are. I'm sure what this guy saw was true. Unfortunately he is just another victim of the extremist zionist government of his state.

There was a young American guy on the boat, who was executed with a shot in the back of the head while lying face down on deck, injured. How do you feel about that? Did he deserve what he got, or do you think they're just evil lies?


One of my best friends was onboard that boat, i have a pretty good eye-witness account of what happened, so i have no intention of a long back and forth with you on this. You read the IDF press releases for the Jerusalem Post, i got my news on this topic first hand.

[shira]

22. So what these pro-Hamas religious extremists did to the IDF soldier was Israel's fault?

Also, the American killed on the Marmara was also shot in the front. What does that tell you?

[Lars77]

24. You know, i've come to the conclusion that we live on different planets.

I hope there's oxygen on yours.

:boring:

[shira]

31. That's what I thought....more diversion/evasion. Thanks! n/t

[hack89]

27. It is perfectly legal

Hamas has a history of both shooting rockets at Israel and smuggling in weapons. A blockade is a perfectly legal means of Israel stopping Hamas from getting more powerful weapons.

[tootrueleft]

19. Exactly Lars. By shiras logic there was no holocaust either as most jews survived it.

[tootrueleft]

11. LOL!The zionist version of "If only the liberals could see all the good work we're doing in eye-raq"

More trash

[shira]

16. So what do you think about those peace activists ripping into this IDF soldier?

No comment, right?

Just carry on with more filth...

[tootrueleft]

21. What, the one unlawfully boarding their boat in international waters carrying a gun?

[shira]

23. Thanks - I knew you wouldn't have a problem with that. Now what about Gilad Atzmon...

...speaking inspirationally to the Audacity of Hope crew? See the post down below.

No problem with that one either, I assume?

[tootrueleft]

25. Post edited in light of thread moderation elsewhere. Apologies mods.

[shira]

32. What do you think about post #30 (Gilad Atzmon speaking for the Gaza flotilla peeps)? n/t

[tootrueleft]

34. Out of respect for the board I will not discuss the person whos character you defamed earlier.

[shira]

42. Who, Atzmon? n/t

[Ignis]

12. Don't forget to mention the incubators!

:eyes:

[tootrueleft]

13. Don't you mean the "hamas arab jew-hater leftist liberal future-terrorist growth capsules (tm)"

:toast:

[azurnoir]

26. shouldn't that be "Hello Uncle Erwin"? from Tamar Yohan Arutz Sheva

This email made the rounds on the internet and came my way. Though it has not been confirmed, the news reports and testimonies that we do know that took place on the Mavi Marmara do not seem to contradict what much of this email contains. It's about what the 'peaceful humanitarians' did on the Free Gaza Flotilla to our IDF soldiers.
I copied and pasted the entire email for you to read for yourselves.


*Hello Uncle Erwin,***
They cut his ab muscles horizontally and by hand spilled his guts out.


This is Amir writing you after reading what you sent to my father, Eitan.

As you know, it was my unit and my friends who were on the ship. My commander was injured badly as a result of the "pacifists" violence. I want to tell you how he was injured so you could tell the story. It shows just how horrible and inhuman were the activists. My commander was the first soldier that rappelled down from the helicopter to the ship.
When he touched ground, he got hit in the head with a pole and stabbed in the stomach with a knife.

When he drew out his secondary weapon-a handgun (his primary weapon was a regular paintball gun: "Tippman 98 custom") he was shot in the leg. He managed to fire a single shot before he was tossed from the balcony by 4
Arab activists, to the lower deck (a 12 feet fall). He was then dragged by other activists to a room in the lower deck were he was stripped down by 2 activists. They took off his vest, helmet and shirt, leaving him
with only his pants and shoes on. When they finished they took a knife and expanded the wound he already had in his stomach. They cut his ab muscles horizontally and by hand spilled his guts out. When they finished they raised him up and walked him on the deck outside. He was conscious the whole time.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/4259

[Lars77]

28. They cut his ab muscles, his guts spilled out, then they WALKED HIM OUTSIDE?

Are you serious??

[wellst0nev0ter]

29. They Are! They Even Got Confiscated Cellphone Videos To Prove It (n/t)

[azurnoir]

33. It was the swimming through salt water that got me

apparently no one is to take into account little things like infection in this case fasciitis or peritonitis and parasites that would be present in salt water for whom this would be quite the feed

why I'm surprised he didn't have to fight off hungry sharks in the process

guess the legend of the IDF supermen lives on-for some

[shira]

35. This is well known to Israelis - you think they're stupid for believing it?

You'd think after all this time at least one physician in Israel - and they have LOTS of of good physicians there - would have called bullshit on this one by now.

[Ignis]

36. What does the nationality of the physician matter?

:dunce:

Take this to any board-licensed physician and see what s/he says about the likelihood of this little bit of pro-IDF propaganda actually occurring.

[shira]

39. These facts are widely known throughout Israel and no one there has called bullshit.

Wonder why?

[Ignis]

41. Are you claiming that 100% of Israelis believe 100% of that little story?

If so, I'd love to see some support for such a wild claim.

[shira]

43. Siiiigh....I'm not aware of any Israeli skepticism WRT this well known event. It was all over...

...the hebrew media (TV), etc.

[Ignis]

55. Yet you haven't actually spoken to medical professionals, have you?

I like a tall tale as much as the next guy, but medical science does tend to poke a few holes in mythology.

[Lars77]

56. This is just absurd. nt

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[shira]

38. I got it from a Phyllis Chesler article. n/t

[azurnoir]

40. seems 'strange' that arutz sheva would run the same thing almost word for word n/t

[shira]

44. Here's the Chesler article to Alice Walker, with the IDF letter...

http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2010/06/06/alice-walker-my-heart-is-breaking-too-stop-the-lies-about-israel/2/

[azurnoir]

45. pajamasmedia?????? lovely

so she waits a year with pile wow

[shira]

46. You thought I lifted the article from Arutz Sheva. Everything was on the up-and-up. n/t

[azurnoir]

47. but that does not prove the veracity of the 'article' did this soldier testify for the Turkle

Committee? Seems that would have been a real show stopper

[shira]

48. Actually, yes, this soldier did testify to the Turkel commission

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?ID=204900&R=R1

Maybe with a little more digging, one of us can come up with the actual transcript.

[azurnoir]

49. Thanks shira the story told by this soldier is a far cry from the letter posted

from JPost

They dragged me down a ladder, two men, one above and one below – while they were dragging me by my pants they started coming off and my shirt hiked up,” he said. “I saw that there was massive bleeding and I could see my intestines spilling out of my stomach.”

now that is possible and BTW do you really think I hadn't already read the JPost article. that's why I asked specifically about Turkle and in fact up until the PJmedia piece that is all Helen Chazen had published

now the possible truth comes out

[shira]

51. The JPost article doesn't contradict the soldier's letter. n/t

[azurnoir]

52. lol yes it does in a big way shall we compare the 2 right here? n/t

[shira]

50. A little more from Arutz Sheva...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/141915

[azurnoir]

53. still doess not back up the letter does it ? n/t

[shira]

54. LOL, what a waste of time but feel free to continue... n/t

[hack89]

9. Reasonable expectation. nt

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