'US paying salaries for jailed Palestinian terrorists'

[shira]

The Palestinian Authority spends more than $5 million a month paying salaries to terrorists sitting in Israeli prisons, according to a Palestinian Media Watch report presented to congressmen in Washington on Tuesday.

According to the report, written by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik, such payments contravene US law, which prohibits funding of any person who “engages in, or has engaged in terrorist activity.

“The US funds the PA’s general budget,” the document reads. “Through the PA budget the US is paying the salaries of terrorist murderers in prison and funding the glorification and role modeling of terrorists.”

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Quoting from Al-Hayat al- Jadida, an official daily newspaper of the Palestinian Authority, the report said that more than 5,500 Palestinian prisoners receive these funds. Palestinian car thieves in Israeli prisons will not receive a salary, but every terrorist in prison including murderers are on the PA payroll, the report said, adding that “the salary goes directly to the terrorist or the terrorist’s family.”

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=231103

Maan News confirms:
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=208966

[damntexdem]

1. So the U.S. helps pay salaries of Palestinians suffering in Israeli concentration camps?

So what?

[shira]

2. Concentration camps? I don't recall ever reading or seeing anything like this from 70 years ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oJQgDBKeDFU#at=32
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.221744801195377.48049.184016071634917

[bemildred]

3. Money is fungible. nt

[Jefferson23]

4. Itamar Marcus:

His other collaborative work in part, can be viewed at FrontPageMagazine. Also, Marcus is a featured source for the documentary Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West.

Marcus lives in the Israeli settlement of Efrat in the West Bank.<3>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_Marcus


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[shira]

5. Oh, well then this story can't possibly be true, even if Maan News confirms it. n/t

[Jefferson23]

6. You know very well this is not about whether a report exists or not.

This is about WHO put it together...big difference.

I thought I would help your readership here and lend a hand.

[shira]

7. What does Marcus have to do with the actual facts? The facts are accurate, right? n/t

[Jefferson23]

8. The alleged facts are compiled by Itamar Marcus, if you accept

his report as valid that is your choice. I do believe his reputation speaks for itself, which is quite revolting.

[shira]

9. Maan confirms the facts. And no one has shown PMW translations to be inaccurate or dishonest. NT

[Jefferson23]

11. They confirmed what facts and the interpretation of use, who the hell are you

trying to kid..other than yourself?

Anyone interested decides the veracity of each post shira, I'll leave it at that.

[shira]

13. There are facts and then there's blind faith in the Palestinian narrative. n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

14. And then there's blind support of someone who participated in making a bigoted film...

Oh, and let's not forget he hangs out with Pamela Geller

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/05/lunch_with_itam.html

[shira]

15. Really? So answer this.... No avoidance, deflection....

1. I couldn't care less about Marcus' politics. I'm only interested in his work and his work is top notch. It may be biased as any work in I/P will be, but it's honest and accurate and I challenge you to prove otherwise.

2. If participating or hanging out with someone bigoted makes one a bigot, then where does that put the entire bunch involved or supportive of BDS, the FGM, and ISM? After all, those are the same folks who were either hanging out and partying with Hamas, being rewarded with medals of honor from Hamas (which is as vile and hateful an organization as it gets) or hanging out with Gilad Atzmon in a fundraiser for the boat to Gaza? How about the FGM folks working with Hamas for the flotilla and sailing with bigots singing songs about butchering Jews? What does that make all those folks, and those supporting them?

[Violet_Crumble]

16. You couldn't care less that he makes bigoted films and hangs out with bigots??

But you care soooo much about so much less when it comes to anyone the slightest bit critical of Israel.

[shira]

18. Aww, you deflected again. Lemme know when you want to really discuss this.

And participating in the movie with Dershowitz (a liberal) and having lunch with Geller doesn't prove he holds to the same political views.

[Violet_Crumble]

19. I did nothing of the sort. You don't care that Marcus participated in a bigoted film..

...and hangs out with bigots. But when it comes to anyone the slightest bit critical of Israel, you hold them to an entirely different standard. That's hypocritical...

[shira]

20. You're comparing apples to oranges. We don't really know Marcus' political views, do we?

All we have is his work at PMW, and it's honest and accurate.

OTOH, we know that those from ISM, FGM, and BDS - as well as all those who support them - hold very similar views to Gilad Atzmon and Hamas (that's why they were rewarded medals of honor). The work these folks do, insofar as reporting, has been proven over and over again to be dishonest and inaccurate.

If everyone were judged solely on the work they do, Marcus' work is far more honest and accurate.

If everyone were judged solely on their political views, the first question has to be - what are Marcus' political views? And do I agree with them if they are similar to Geller's? The fact is you agree with the views of those affiliated with or supportive of ISM, FGM, and BDS. If you were only interested in their work and opposed to their views then we could compare....

[Violet_Crumble]

22. No, yr defending someone who participated in a bigoted film and who hangs out with bigots...

And why do you continue to say things that aren't true about people who support the ISM and BDS? I support both and I most definately don't hold very similar views to Hamas!

So, how do you manage to twist yr 'logic' so much that bigotry against Muslims is separate to political views, but when it's bigotry against Jews, it's a political view?

[shira]

24. Defending Marcus how? Defending his politics or the work he does?

I think you need to read my last few posts to you so you can better understand the difference between us.

The ISM, FGM, and BDS folks worked closely with Hamas WRT the flotilla and were rewarded medals of honor by Hamas a few years ago. They support Hamas' one state solution. And you support these organizations and their politics. What's difficult about this?

[Violet_Crumble]

25. Defending him even though he participated in a bigoted film and hangs out with bigots...

Is there something in what I've been posting that yr just not able to grasp? You don't seem to have any awareness at all of how utterly hypocritical it is to not care at all that a 'supporter' of Israel hangs out with bigots while in the same breath you try to paint people who are pro-Palestinian as Hamas supporters because a few people hung out with Hamas...

[shira]

26. Again, his work or his politics? Facts are facts no matter whether they come from LW'ers, RW'ers...

...Nazis or Communists.

It doesn't mean I support any of the above and their politics.

As for those who hang out with and support much of what Hamas advocates, if THEIR work is honest and accurate then THAT WORK should also be viewed as legitimate even though those folks have disgustingly vile political POV's.

[Violet_Crumble]

30. I'll repeat it again. Yr defending him hanging out with bigots...

I find it repellent that you turn a blind eye when it comes to Islamophobia, yet do a complete 360 when it comes to the slightest whiff of antisemitism...

As for the rest, do you think given the hypocrisy of yr POV that anyone gives a shit how you view anyone else?

[shira]

31. You seem to give a shit about my POV, so I'm trying to explain to you...

...that I would accept facts - as long as they're honest and accurate - from either Marcus, Geller, or any of the most hateful, bigoted pieces of crap affiliated with the FGM or ISM.

I'll defend their work (not their politics) so long as it's legit.

[Violet_Crumble]

33. Yr very mistaken. I find yr POV revolting...

I've got no time for anyone who defends people who embrace bigotry or who can't see their own hypocrisy in turning a blind eye to one sort while flying off the handle about others...

[shira]

38. You're making up shit that you find revolting. Why do you do this?

I just said I'd accept and defend evidence from the most vile and hateful pieces of crap in the ISM or FGM, whether it's from PRESS-TV or from neo-Nazis and Communists.

As long as the information is honest and accurate, I accept such evidence no matter where it comes from.

I could care less about the POV of those relaying those facts and am in no way defending such people or their views, but rather the evidence they bring forth.

=========

So why are you purposely misrepresenting me? Setting up a strawman and then feigning disgust? You've done this before....

[bemildred]

10. There are no facts.

The US gives money to the PA, and the PA pays citizens held in Israeli jails and concentration camps. That is the entire factual content, and it's been like that for decades.

[shira]

12. There are obviously no facts to people who think Palestinians are in concentration camps. n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

17. I'm pretty positive bemildred doesn't think Palestinians are in concentration camps...

He's free to correct me if I'm wrong, but bemildred said that the US gives money to the PA, which gives money to people held in Israeli jails. I didn't see a whiff of concentration camp from him...

[shira]

21. Let's see what Bemilidred says about his use of 'concentration camps'. n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

23. How about you read the fucking thread. He didn't say anything about concentration camps n/t

[shira]

27. He said it in #10, so let's see how he explains that. n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

28. Explains what? He didn't mention concentration camps...

Or is any mention of jail turned automatically into 'concentration camp' by you?

[shira]

29. So why'd he write "concentration camps" in #10? n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

32. So he did...

Oh well. That mention should cause you a few sleepless nights...

[bemildred]

34. Well, let's say it served it's purpose, but I'm sorry you got sucked into it. nt

[Violet_Crumble]

35. Ah, I just got off a plane after suffering an obnoxious Drunk Guy...

It was only a two hour flight but he drank and droned all the way about his boring job, and then when we landed, sprinted to the front of the plane like he was on an episode of The Amazing Race. After that experience, I felt like punishing myself by hitting my head against a fencepost :hi:

[bemildred]

36. What? He didn't hit on you?

:hi:

[Violet_Crumble]

37. He latched onto some female auditors in the back row...

He started conducting a poll trying to find out who had the most boring job, and doing webby stuff, I wasn't even in the running. They won and got his undying attention right up till the moment we landed...

[shira]

39. Oh, so it was a joke when you wrote "concentration camps" in #10?