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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:56 AM
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Rattling the Cage: The Breivik effect in Israel and abroad
By LARRY DERFNER
07/28/2011 21:20


‘Jews that support multiculturalism today are as much of a threat to Israel and Zionism (Israeli nationalism) as they are to us. So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multi-culturalists.

“So, are the current Jews in Europe and US disloyal? The multi-culturalist (nation-wrecking Jews) ARE, while the conservative Jews ARE NOT. Approx. 75% of European/US Jews support multi-culturalism while approx. 50% of Israeli Jews does the same. This shows very clearly that we must embrace the remaining loyal Jews as brothers rather than repeating the mistake of the NSDAP .” – Anders Behring Breivik, Norwegian mass murderer, from his 1,518-page manifesto.

What does this mean for Israel – that this neo-Nazi monster repeatedly expressed his affinity for “Israeli nationalism” together with his loathing for “the so-called Jewish liberals,” whom he called “multi-culturalists”?

Let me start by saying what it doesn’t mean. It doesn’t mean that the Israeli right-wing majority – Likud, Israel Beiteinu, Shas, United Torah Judaism, National Union and Habayit Hayehudi – share Breivik’s ideology, which is genocidal, anti-Muslim, anti-liberal, national supremacism.

It does not mean the Israeli Right bears any responsibility, even indirectly, for inciting Breivik to kill.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=231485
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:07 AM
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1. Larry wrote some interesting comments beneath the article WRT ideologically insane LW'ers....
...who are the equivalent of the RW'ers.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:08 AM
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2. Yeah, I saw yr link to pajamasmedia in the comments on his blog...
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 08:12 AM by Violet_Crumble
I find it interesting the way yr so relentless in using RW sources to attack LWers...

http://israelleft.com/2011/07/28/the-breivik-effect-in-israel-and-abroad/#comments
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:14 AM
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3. I quote Barry Rubin, whose blog has moved to PJM.
Rubin is liberal.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:22 AM
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4. You linked to pajamasmedia. Someone who's liberal wouldn't hang out in that cesspit...
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 08:26 AM by Violet_Crumble
Revolting...

btw, did a quick google, and this supposed 'liberal' really doesn't like Obama, especially when it comes to Obama's view on Muslims being that only a small minority are extremists...
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:56 AM
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5. I like Rubin's articles and don't really care for the RW politics of PJM.
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 09:00 AM by shira
I know, it's so hard to understand...

Newsflash: There are many liberals disappointed with Obama on I/P.

Do you really like Obama and agree with all he's done WRT the I/P situation?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:02 AM
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6. Yeah, politics only matters when it's from supporters of the Palestinians...
Then it matters a hell of a lot, apparently...

Of course I don't agree with all Obama's done, but Rubin attacks him because he dares to think most Muslims aren't extremists. Though I can understand after reading some of Rubin's 'wisdom' on Muslims why you'd like his articles...
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:20 AM
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8. Then point to this article you find abhorrent by Rubin, please.... n/t
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:39 PM
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9. Just like the old story (very apt. today)


Of a Jew in the 1930`s asked why he was reading a German Tabloid.



He said ' if I read the Jewish newspaper it tells how we are losing Jobs,confiscation of

property,humiliation,death,deportation etc,

But this Newspaper tells how we rule the world ,banks and Hollywood.

I prefer reading how powerful the Jews are ! `



Always read the opposition paper for a fully rounded picture.



Kapish? Havant ?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 07:05 AM
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10. Pajamasmedia isn't a tabloid. It's a RW cesspit...
Though I guess I'll file that post in the 'It's not Islamophobic. It's anti-homohpobic!' category...
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:36 AM
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11. OK


Whatever that means ?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:10 AM
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7. Mr Derfner is a bit too kind to the nationalist right, IMHO.
The fact that Mr Breivik views them with such affection ought to give them plenty of cause for self examination.
But otherwise, OK.
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