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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:28 PM
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Israeli minister calls for major Gaza assault
GAZA CITY/ OCCUPIED JERUSALEM: An Israeli Cabinet minister reportedly called for a major military push into Gaza Tuesday.The call came after Israeli warplanes raided the Gaza Strip early Tuesday, one day after Palestinian militants fired a rocket into Israel, wounding a woman.

Israeli public radio and state-run Channel One TV reported Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aaronovitch, of the hawkish Yisrael Beitenu party, as saying: “The steady shower of missiles” from Gaza could not be tolerated and Israel must respondwith a “broad military action.”

Neither broadcaster immediately aired soundbites of the comments.

Late Monday a rocket fired from the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip crashed into southern Israel’s Negev desert and a woman who was at a graveside in a cemetery was hit by shrapnel.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2011/Aug-03/Israeli-minister-calls-for-major-Gaza-assault.ashx
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 06:46 PM
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1. " a broad military action".....I wish I could say I am shocked.
Deeply disturbing.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 08:22 PM
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2. Well, it worked great last time, why be so negative?
Then, a couple of years after that, another invasion of Lebanon to teach Hezbollah another lesson.
:sarcasm:
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 08:35 PM
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3. Yep, a story from your link:

Lebanon-Israel border incidents could quickly turn to war: U.N.

(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News

August 2, 2011




BEIRUT: U.N. envoy to Lebanon warned that incidents such as Monday’s exchange of fire on the Lebanon-Israel border could quickly turn into a war, as Prime Minister Najib Mikati affirmed Lebanon’s commitment to defend its sovereignty by all legitimate means.

“This was a very disturbing incident ... you can go from an incident like this to war within a few hours. That is the reality,” U.N. Special Coordinator Michel Williams told reporters after meeting with Prime Minister Najib Mikati Tuesday.

"The good thing is that nobody was injured. The bad news is that we cannot afford any incidents like this," he added.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2011/Aug-02/Lebanon-Israel-border-incidents-could-quickly-turn-to-war-UN.ashx#axzz1TvBLJR8A

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 08:44 PM
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4. Just like flicking a switch. nt
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 11:30 AM
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15. Lebanon files complaint against Israel over border incident

August 03, 2011 01:18 PM The Daily Star


BEIRUT: Lebanon filed Wednesday a complaint at the United Nations against Israel over a recent border incident in south Lebanon, the National News Agency reported Wednesday.

The agency said Lebanon’s Foreign Ministry, through it representative in New York, submitted a complaint to the U.N. over the entry of an Israeli patrol on July 1, 2011, into Lebanese territory by a distance of 15 meters after it crossed the Wazzani River.

The Lebanese Army engaged in a brief confrontation with Israeli soldiers shortly after dawn Monday when an Israeli Army convoy crossed the Blue Line at Wazzani into Lebanon. The fight did not lead to any casualties.

The Foreign Ministry said the incident represented a violation and abuse of Lebanon’s sovereignty and to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701, international law and the U.N. charter, and poses a threat the peace of the two countries.

UNSCR 1701 ended the 2006 July-August war between Lebanon and Israel and extended the mandate of the United Nations Interim Forces in Lebanon, which monitors a cease-fire between the two countries.

U.N. Special Coordinator for Lebanon Michael Williams warned Tuesday incidents such as Monday’s exchange of fire on the Lebanon-Israel border could quickly turn into a war, as Prime Minister Najib Mikati affirmed Lebanon’s commitment to defend its sovereignty by all legitimate means.


Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2011/Aug-03/Lebanon-files-complaint-against-Israel-over-border-incident.ashx#ixzz1Tz4YKMoQ
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
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Dick Dastardly Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:30 PM
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16. Lebanon fired on Israeli troops that were on Israels side of the border
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 03:31 PM by Dick Dastardly
IDF exchanges fire with Lebanon across border

The Israel Defense Forces and the Lebanese Army exchanged fire across the northern border Monday, a rare occurrence. There were no casualties in the incident, which occurred when Lebanese soldiers fired on an IDF patrol on the Israeli side of the border.

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UNIFIL said the initial findings suggest that the IDF did not cross the border, and that there had been no cause for the shooting.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/idf-exchanges-fire-with-lebanon-across-border-1.376479
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:42 PM
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17. We'll see, operative words here: initial findings.
Hopefully this will be more of a constant vs any escalation:

"According to officers in Northern Command, clashes are usually restricted to shouting and the pointing of weapons, not shooting."

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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 09:22 PM
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5. Is the firing of a Rocket disturbing?


what should Israel do?
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 09:27 PM
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6. Violence is disturbing, yes. " a broad military action".....also disturbing.
I don't want to speculate what that could translate to right now.

I'm hoping for the best for all concerned.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 09:30 PM
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7. If that were my wife injured


I would be insisting the Government and my Military do something,pronto!
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 09:42 PM
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8. Yes, some prefer military solutions. n/t
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:21 PM
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10. Well when it comes to Gaza ,their is no other solution


The Government/Hamas will accept nothing less than a Jew free Mid East (and they freely admit it) ,and that will never happen.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:03 AM
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12.  perhaps the Bedouin man who's wife was injured on the legs by shrapnel would
like to see some justice done, but there is a reason most civilized societies do not let the victims decide the punishment

for most reasonable people major military operation is a bit of overkill, perhaps even the Bedouin man who's wife was the victim
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 06:45 AM
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14. What Rubbish
If as many Rockets fell on Buffalo NY,, Toronto would be flattened.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:24 PM
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23. Israel has been retaliating with stepped up bombings and incursios
into Gaza, but are you saying that another OCL is what you would prefer to see?
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Dick Dastardly Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:46 PM
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18. Well the military action is not for this one single incident as you try to allude but as the article
says it is for a constant shower of missles that have been increasing over the last few months as well as other attacks such as the firing of an anti tank rocket at a school bus that killed one kid and injured many others. No country would tolerate such attacks.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:51 PM
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19. I didn't allude to anything, and yes, some prefer a military solution. n/t
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Dick Dastardly Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:09 PM
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21. I never said you did allude to anything.

Some people do unfortunatly prefer a military solution even when there are others that would have equal or better effect but sometimes a military solution is the only one that you are left with and or that would have the most effect.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:18 PM
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22. I misunderstood you were referring to me here? Ok, but it didn't seem that way.
"Well the military action is not for this one single incident as you try to allude but as the article...."


Sometimes it is, I agree with that..in a generalized way so to speak.

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:54 PM
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20. and Israel has not tolerated them it has retaliated with stepped up bombings
that have caused several deaths including that of a child
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:35 AM
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24. Why are you making such a big deal about "Bedouin" ?
You go out of your way to note that twice here.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:01 PM
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9. well it would provide a distraction for Israeli's wouldn't it?
something to call up patriotic spirit rally round the flag and all
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:26 PM
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11. Yes, it's worrisome.
Quite a few parties right now who could use a good distraction. Bibi certainly counts as one of them, also Little Assad, to name another.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:17 AM
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13. also disturbing
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 02:17 AM by azurnoir
as another poster became quite 'upset' by my posting an OP about the women who was wounded that did not provide enough personal info on her I look it up and Arutz Sheva says she is a Bedouin, so these MK's are using a Bedouin women being wounded on her legs by shrapnel to in part call for a major military action in Gaza is this a political ploy the appearance of PC caring and perhaps a clean up of more recent happenings between Israel and its Bedouin population? so many birds with one stone? I really do not know the whole thing is kind of bizarre
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:35 AM
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25. Arutz Sheva is a RW settler web site
Interesting that you would use that particular source in this case.
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