Jail for Jew-hating terror jihadists

[shira]

Jihadists from Manchester who wanted to kill Jews, used anti-Israel films to recruit terrorists and organised support for a Gaza aid convoy, have been jailed. Munir Farooqi, Israr Malik and Matthew Newton, who received sentences of between six years and life imprisonment at Manchester Crown Court last Friday (September 9), were snared when they unwittingly recruited undercover policemen for terrorism in Afghanistan.

The three were exposed after officers infiltrated their radicalisation den in Longsight. A basement, containing 50,000 extremist DVDs and CDs about Israel and Jihad, was used to groom vulnerable men for terror training camps.

During a four-month trial, the court was told how Matthew Newton, 29 and a recent convert to Islam, had a "fixation with Jews".

During the year-long sting operation in 2009, which involved two police officers being converted to Islam and radicalised, Newton was recorded repeatedly asking an imam, "can we kill Jewish people?" and calling Jews pigs in antisemitic tirades during Koran lessons at a south Manchester mosque.

more...
http://www.thejc.com/node/54764

"As you might have guessed, the “Gaza aid convoy” in question was Viva Palestina: a Hamas support operation associated with George Galloway and his sidekick, Kevin Ovenden....."
http://hurryupharry.org/2011/09/19/viva-palestina-took-now-convicted-jihadist-to-gaza/

[leveymg]

1. Stupid flame bait. I'd also unrec this if it said, "Jail for Muslim-hating terror Jews"

Ham-fisted treatment of a story about dim-wits. That headline is grotesque propaganda. Real shit.

[vminfla]

2. "can we kill Jewish people?"

Sounds like he wanted to do more than flame bait.

[leveymg]

4. The treatment of the story offends me almost as much as the subject.

Propaganda is offensive, period. The flame bait is reposting it raw here at DU.

Apparently the OP can't answer for herself.

[vminfla]

5. Take that up with the author

Personally, what I find objectionable is that this person, in the guise of humanitarian aid, is capable of using an "aid convoy" to foment unrest. A much better headline would have been "Aid Convoy Organizers Arrested for Terrorism"

[leveymg]

6. I'm taking it up with the OP, who reposted this shit here.

When you associate the terms "hating" and "terror" in a single headline, it's propaganda. The awkward tie-in of George Galloway is also a nasty, amateurish attempt to spread some shit around.

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[King_David]

9. You right it is far better not to talk about these stories and just ignore them nt

[leveymg]

13. No, not at all. You completely miss the point.

The issue isn't the content, it's the obnoxious headline and the clumsy way the OP pasted it together to link these thugs with Galloway. It wasn't straight reporting, it's broad brush propaganda. The tie-in of George Galloway was contrived and, as I said, a clumsy effort to spread shit around.

Offensive.

[vminfla]

14. But Galloway *is* linked to Hamas

Galloway has provided thousands of dollars in cash and dozens of vehicles to Hamas. Although his activities may not rise to the level of co-conspirator, his support of individuals with terrorists ties in well-established. This is merely another link in the chain.

[shira]

15. Galloway is a very proud supporter of Hamas. Here he is on video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmhrWoSTpys

[vminfla]

45. Like Chocolate and Peanut Butter

Galloway's commitment to Hamas is what got him banned from Canada in the first place. To fop him off as merely a cursory participant is disingenous.

[leveymg]

16. So have the US Government and the EU sent money. Does that make them terrorist supporters, too?

Hamas is the elected majority party in Gaza. Learn to live with that fact, and maybe there's a resolution to this conflict - a UN resolution.

[oberliner]

17. Statement is false

Hamas is not the elected majority in Gaza. Also, elections are long overdo. Surveys show that party losing by a large margin both in Gaza and the West Bank. Wonder why there have not been elections since the split.

[leveymg]

21. There was no parliamentary election in 2006? Hamas did not win that vote? The US and EU

have provided no aid to Gaza since then?

There was an attempted coup and civil war the following summer, into which Israel intervened on the side of Fatah. Hamas fought off the IDF which tried to occupy Ramallah. No wonder people aren't talking to each other.

[oberliner]

23. There wasn't a separate election for Gaza

Hamas won the most seats in the legislature - which applied both to Gaza and the West Bank.

The fact that there is a separate leadership currently in Gaza and another in the West Bank is a function of the civil war that you mention.

[leveymg]

24. That's right. Hamas won the last parliamentary vote. There have been no

nationwide elections since because the two factions haven't fully reconciled. It's been on and off ever since the bloody summer of 2007.

If there were some viable alternative to both parties, it might win nationwide. Maybe, that reconciliation will follow statehood, if we let it.

[oberliner]

31. The problem is that there are 2 different government that don't recognize the authority of the other

There are two distinct presidents and prime ministers - each of whom does not recognize the authority of the other. And each of whom is essentially governing an independent entity, each of which is to be considered part of the Palestine that is meant to be admitted into the UN.

This seems to be potentially more than a little bit problematic.

My personal view is that, were the long overdue elections finally to be held, that Hamas would be swept out of office, which I think is part of the reason why they have thus far been opposed to such elections taking place.

I think that this move by Abbas has boosted the popularity of Fatah both in the West Bank and Gaza even further - and I think Hamas would do well to get on board if they want to remain part of a future post-election governing coalition.

[leveymg]

35. I think we can agree on that.

Statehood would likely impose the need for policy coherence and some discipline. It's a plus for all parties, as far as I can foresee.

[demosincebirth]

3. Ahh, they must be misunderstood. NT

[cali]

8. largely agree, but I think those identified in the story are a little bit worse than

merely "dimwits". Don't you?

[shira]

10. Hey, if you could find another headline news story on this event, I'd post that instead.

As it is, there's nothing else out there WRT this story.

Maybe it's just not newsworthy for some reason...

[bemildred]

11. Court jails ex-Taliban fighter for jihad recruitment

LONDON — A British former Taliban fighter who sought to recruit Muslims to travel to Afghanistan and attack NATO soldiers was jailed for life on Friday by a court in England.

Pakistani-born British citizen Munir Farooqi radicalised young men in Manchester, northwest England, using an Islamic bookstall as cover before trying to persuade them to fight with the Taliban in war-torn Afghanistan.

But anti-terrorism police caught the 54-year-old ringleader and two others after infiltrating their group and carrying out a year-long undercover operation, prosecutors told Manchester Crown Court.

Farooqi told undercover police officers they could become martyrs fighting in the Afghan jihad, or holy war, the court heard. It is not known if he succeeded in persuading anyone to travel to Afghanistan.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5igGc10hCApVbY6mi9oNp4BO9STnQ?docId=CNG.220bf47998717b08bf88f0157da3e530.261

[shira]

12. Not a word about his Jewish problem or ties to Galloway's aid ship. n/t

[azurnoir]

18. oh but what about the concern you claim to have for women the Tailiban is oe of worst offenders

but it's nice to see you have your priorities in row that part doesn't relate to Israel, Jews or the Palestinians but I see your on roll here lets see how much hate you can flood this forum with it speaks so well for Israels supporters maybe it'll change or influence some minds

[shira]

19. Do you think it's also hateful to point out Neo-Nazi and KKK jew hatred?

Or just jew hatred masquerading as anti-zionism?

[azurnoir]

20. no depend s on its done though and what I see here is IMO hyperbole n/t

[shira]

22. Jew haters recruited with anti-Israel films, participated on an aid flotilla to Gaza...

...and you believe reporting this is wrong? Or that the headline alone was bad?

[leveymg]

25. The headline is offensive, the stories are propaganda, your editing made it worse.

[vminfla]

26. It is not propaganda if it is true

What editing? That was the actual headline and the actual article. It is not propaganda.

When someone says "I hate Jews, can we kill them?" referring to them as jew haters is non-ambiguous.

[leveymg]

27. That's not true - not all propaganda is non-factual. It's the intent to arouse and the

use of part-truths that separate propaganda from news reporting. It happens all the time. The OP just happened to have picked two particularly vulgar specimens of propaganda, and strung them together with the intent to paint George Galloway as a supporter of terrorism. That's shit.

[vminfla]

28. But there are no half-truths and infanduous Gallow *is* a supporter of of Hamas

Everything in the article is factual true. There is no disambiguation. Galloway has continued to financially support Hamas and was banned from entering Canada because of his links to terrorism. The Canadian immigration minister even going so far as to use the not-oft used expression infanduous to describe Gallow.

[leveymg]

30. If Galloway is truly infanduous, you shouldn't mention his name.

If you want to disambiguate a subject, you remove ambiguity, or uncertain meaning. Are you saying the articles posted by the OP seek to add ambiguity? I might agree with that . . .

In which English-language dictionary did you find these big words? :eyes:

[vminfla]

32. Infanduous Galloway

On the contrary, the articles from OP use plain, easy to understand language to describe the terrorists involved and their association with the infanduous George Galloway. The use of the term Infanduous to describe Gallow is not mine, but that of the Canadian government.

[leveymg]

34. Oxymoron. eom

[bemildred]

36. Indeed. nt

[vminfla]

38. You meant redundant

Like to, too, and two, many people confuse oxymoron with redundant.

[bemildred]

40. No, oxymoron is the right word.

Infanduous means unmentionable, if you call someone infanduous, you mention them, and therefore you have contradicted the notion that that person is unmentionable.

infandous - Describing something too horrible to mention.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Infandous

An oxymoron (plural oxymorons or oxymora) (from Greek ὀξύμωρον, "sharp dull") is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms.

http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&site=webhp&source=hp&q=oxymoron&btnG=Search

[vminfla]

42. Never Say Never

My motto is "never say never", which makes it impossible to share my motto.

[bemildred]

43. There you go again. nt

[shira]

39. The Jewish/Israel angle shouldn't be surprising, given it's from a Jewish publication.

I don't understand why you feel Galloway's inclusion is propaganda. It's true and extremely important as well, unless either you like Galloway or you don't mind that he dupes people into supporting his twisted and hateful, warmongering "humanitarian" cause.

If anything is propaganda, it's billing Galloway and his cause as humanitarian and peaceful.

[vminfla]

44. I do not understand the Galloway love myself

The man provides cash and cars to Hamas. That does not make him an observer or a proponent, that makes him a participant.

[azurnoir]

33. I believe the Taliban is far more serious than the flotilla

and had there not been a serious effort by some here to equate anti-occupation with antisemitism perhaps it would be different the angle taken along with the headline and additional notes tends to minimize the Taliban which IMO is far more serious

[shira]

37. Al Qaeda / Taliban are mentioned within the article. OTOH, the article Bemildred linked to...

...doesn't mention antisemitism, Israel, or the aid flotilla at all.

The OP headline is one thing, but then again it's in a Jewish publication. At least it's more honest and accurate than the article Bemildred linked to. What's fascinating is that the anti-Israel, Gaza, and antisemitic angles are not mentioned anywhere else. Like so many things, the media tends to bury or censor such information.

[bemildred]

29. I was just trying to help. nt

[shira]

41. Yep. Thanks. n/t