Israeli Baby Hurt in West Bank Unrest

[oberliner]

An Israeli baby sustained a head injury as Palestinians clashed with Israeli soldiers ahead of the Palestinians’ imminent statehood bid at the United Nations.

The 16-month-old girl was hit in the head with a rock during the Palestinian riots late Wednesday afternoon in the northern West Bank. She was rushed to a hospital in Petach Tikvah.

Gunshots were fired at a car traveling near the northern West Bank community of Karnei Shomron. Bullet holes were discovered in the car; no one was injured.

Hundreds of Palestinians rioted near Hebron, according to reports, and dozens gathered at checkpoints throughout the West Bank, throwing stones at Israeli troops and burning tires. Three Palestinians were arrested in the clashes.

http://www.forward.com/articles/143260/#ixzz1YdYp1snq

[DesertFlower]

1. getting hit in the head with a rock can

kill someone. they have to stop this crap if they want to be recognized. that being said, i feel for the moderate palestinian people who want peace.

[Crunchy Frog]

11. You do realize that the settlers throw rocks at Palestinians all the time?

I guess Palestinian heads are harder. :shrug:

[DesertFlower]

13. i didn't know. neither side should be doing

that. i've almost given up hope that there will be peace. i'm against the settlements.

[LeftishBrit]

15. Exactly; neither side should be injuring children.

[izquierdista]

2. I thought Netanyahu was at the UN?

with Obama? :shrug:

[Purveyor]

3. Right on cue and I won't be surprised if 'something' more dramatic materializes

rather soon.

BTW, what the hell is a 'baby' doing in a obvious riot zone anyway?

Irresponsible parenting or just a 'prop' for Bibi's propaganda machine?

[oberliner]

5. She was riding in a car with her parents - someone threw rocks at the car

Thus causing the injury.

BTW, what the hell is an "obvious riot zone"?

[Crunchy Frog]

12. Parents using it as a "human shield"?

Sacrificing a baby in order to score propaganda points?

[msongs]

4. occupying someone else's territory frequently has unforseen consequences nt

[King_David]

6. I do not think anything justifies throwing a rock at a baby

Or smashing a baby's head against a rock or slitting a baby's throat.

(all true stories )

[TomClash]

7. Tell that to the IAF

Only they don't use rocks.

[King_David]

8. .

:eyes:

[TomClash]

9. . . .

:think:

[LeftishBrit]

16. No doubt - but babies are not the perpetrators.

[Crunchy Frog]

10. I don't understand the parents' decision

to take a baby into an active conflict zone.

[vminfla]

14. There is no excuse for the senseless violence.

Historically, the PLO and those who engaged in this rioting consider this 16 month old girl -- any Israeli citizen in fact, to be a soldier and thus a legimitate military target. After all, she would serve in Israeli's military in sixten and a half years. In their calculus, this was a pre-emptive strike.

Time to give them a state.

[Violet_Crumble]

17. What was a baby doing at a demonstration?

It doesn't sound like someone hit the baby on purpose, and the PLO do not consider children to be soldiers.

Y'know, a few years back this forum was full of 'supporters' of Israel who used to react to the killing of Palestinian children, even when they were in their own homes, by the IDF with resounding cries of 'what sort of parents would allow their children into a war zone???' Do you agree with them?

Time for the Israeli government to remove the settlers from the West Bank, that's if they care at all about their own citizens, which it seems very clear they don't...

[shira]

18. The baby was in a car riding with her parents. n/t

[vminfla]

19. In fact, they do consider Israeli children to be soldiers

Killing Israeli children pre-emptively kills future Israeli soldiers. She would have eventually served in the military, thus making her a legitimate military target. Read up on it.

[Violet_Crumble]

20. The PA does NOT consider children to be anything of the sort...

And you don't seem to have read the OP properly. The baby wasn't killed. The children who have been killed were Palestinian children killed by the IDF, which is what I mentioned in my post when I asked you the question you didn't bother answering.

[Crunchy Frog]

21. Similar to the sentiments expressed on the t-shirts at this link?

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/03/20/idf-t-shirts-boast-of-killing-babies-pregnant-women-sodomizing-hamas-leaders/

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[Violet_Crumble]

23. Looks like you totally missed the point...

While you've repeatedly made the false claim that the PA views Israeli children as combatants who should be killed, Crunchy showed you an example of IDF soldiers wearing t-shirts bragging about killing Palestinian children.

[Name removed]

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[Violet_Crumble]

25. Someone called Tikkun Olam the Protocols of the Elders of Zion??

What an absolutely stupid and ugly thing to do.

[Ken Burch]

27. Agreed

n/t.

[vminfla]

35. Just Like The Protocols

Just like the protocols, the shirts look like a well orchestrated fake. Are there any photos of someone wearing one of these photos on the street or just this website?

[Crunchy Frog]

37. Other links about these t-shirts.

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/15245946

Israeli Army T-Shirts Mock Gaza Killings

The Israeli army is at the centre of a second controversy over the moral conduct of its soldiers in as many days. The revelations centre on t-shirt designs made for soldiers that make light of shooting pregnant Palestinian mothers and children and include images of dead babies and destroyed mosques.

The t-shirts were printed for Israeli soldiers at the end of periods of deployment or training courses and were discovered by Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

One, printed for a platoon of Israeli snipers depicts an armed Palestinian pregnant women caught in the crosshairs of a rifle, with the disturbing caption in English: "1 shot 2 kills".

~

A spokesman for the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) told Sky News Online, the t-shirts were printed on the private initiative of the soldiers and their designs "are not in accordance with IDF values and are simply tasteless. This type of humour is unacceptable and should be condemned".

It was widely reported at the time. It was originally reported by an Israeli newspaper, and confirmed by the IDF. Are you going to paint all of them with the "Protocols" accusation as well?

[Violet_Crumble]

39. Haven't you worked it out yet?

Anything negative about Israel or the IDF clearly has to be antisemitic lies. It really does get pathetic...

[vminfla]

40. Like the Protocols

Like the Protocols, many times that tends to be the case.

[Violet_Crumble]

41. The story about the t-shirts is true...

I run a forum with the guy whose site Crunchy linked to a few posts back, and mentioned yr response to him. Here's what he said: 'In fact, the IDF t shirt story was first reported by none other than Uri Blau of Haaretz (he reported the Anat Kamm story as well). So I guess that makes Haaretz an extension of the Protocols!'

[azurnoir]

31. A YNet article posted down thread describes the babies injuries as light

so she will recover to serve tell us you seem to think she purposely targeted is that true?

[Ken Burch]

26. That's horrible news and I hope the child recovers fully.

Children should never be sacrificed in this conflict, or any other.
And that is all anyone need say, really.

[shira]

32. Good for you Ken! n/t

[Ken Burch]

38. My response isn't a change. I have always condemned all acts of violence against children

And never gave ANY side a pass on that, anywhere.

Your condescension is totally undeserved.

[azurnoir]

28. The poster of this thread should be proud its now the 3rd entry in a Google search of the title

the first 2 being from the OP's source, the Forward story is quite short on details of the incident such as exactly what village or checkpoint it happened at

[oberliner]

29. This Ynet article has more details and a video including video of the injured young girl

If you are interested, it can be found here:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4125492,00.html

[azurnoir]

30. Thanks the YNet article mention the 'riots' at the Qalandiya checkpoint

but doesn't mention this detail on the same day guess there have been injuries on both sides

15 Year-Old Shot in the Face During Qalandiya Demo and Looses Eye

The Qalandiya checkpoint, the main gateway between Ramallah and Jerusalem, has been sealed off by Israeli soldiers this morning. On he day of opening of the UN General Assembly session in which the recognition of the Palestinian state is expected to be discussed, the act caused heightened tensions in an already tense time.

Shortly before 1 PM, clashes commenced between the armed soldiers who laid razor-wire barricades at the entrance to the checkpoint and local youth. The soldiers shot tear-gas, rubber-coated bullets and live ammunition at the youth, some of which were hurling stones in the direction of the soldiers.

Some 20 demonstrators were treated for wounds by local medics. One of the protesters, a 15 year-old, was struck in the eye by a rubber-coated bullet shot from a short distance in violation of the Israeli army’s own open-fire regulations, and lost his eye. Another, a 20 year-old, was hit in the lower abdomen by a shrapnel from live ammo. Two of the protesters were arrested by plain-clothed special forces who were sent to mix in with the demonstrators.

http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/15-year-old-shot-in-the-face-during-qalandiya-demonstration-and-looses-eye/


the incident in the OP apparently took place near Qusra where demonstrations have been going on for a few days and IDF killed a man yesterday

[oberliner]

33. I guess your interest wasn't in the story of the young girl after all

Oh well.

[azurnoir]

34. yes it was but I wanted more detail the baby will thankfully recover

what happened was indeed unfortunate but I seriously doubt she was purposely targeted as some here suggest

[vminfla]

36. Tragic

Tragic that an innocent child should endure such pain for the simple act of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.