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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:15 PM
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Erdogan assaulted in UN building
Unidentified man tries to attack Turkish PM during Abbas' speech, stopped by bodyguards

Yitzhak Benhorin Published: 09.24.11, 00:11 / Israel News


NEW YORK – An unidentified man on Friday tried to assault Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan during Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' speech at the United Nations General Assembly.

Erdogan's bodyguards immediately stopped the man. Erdogan himself was not injured during the incident.

Minister of Diplomacy and Diaspora Affairs Yuli Edelstein, who witnessed the attack outside the General Assembly hall, described it as a "very violent incident. Like a scene out of a movie."

The circumstances of the incident were still unclear, but some claim it may be connected to the internal conflict taking place between Turkey and the Kurdish rebels.

remainder: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4126682,00.html
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Worship Money Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:19 PM
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1. Erdogan is
A dirty thug.
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holdencaufield Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:24 PM
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2. Sounds to me...
... like Erdogan was a bit envious of the attention Abbas was getting inside the hall -- and decided to make a little scene outside the hall.


Girls! Girls! Girls! You're BOTH pretty!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:59 PM
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3. Stupid, sexist comment. Nt
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:28 PM
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5. Maybe not
It could be said at an all boys dinner party too :)
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holdencaufield Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:51 PM
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6. Actually quoting a line
spoken by Tina Fey in a movie (said to two MALE characters).

So take it up with Ms. Fay's attorneys.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:53 PM
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7. So what? Lot's of sexist things get said in movies...
And in case you didn't notice in yr haste to have a good chuckle, Erdogan was assaulted. Yr trying to make out he's responsible for it, which is absolutely pathetic. If it was Nutty who'd been assaulted you'd be acting in a whole different way...
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holdencaufield Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 12:00 AM
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8. "The circumstances of the incident were still unclear"
So -- at this point -- it's a very dramatic anecdote.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 12:03 AM
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9. What's not clear is who assaulted him or why...
What's clear is that someone did. What's also clear is that what you said in that initial post was sexist...

You'd be reacting very differently if it was Nutty instead of Erdogan...
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holdencaufield Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 12:21 AM
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10. You'd be reacting very differently if it was Nutty instead of Erdogan...
Why aren't you using those psychic powers to fight crime instead of posting on DU?

With great power comes great responsibility (also a movie line)
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 12:29 AM
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11. Nope, I wouldn't. Assaulting someone's totally out of line...
Unlike you, I wouldn't be sitting there cracking jokes about it and making out it was just an attention seeking prank....
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holdencaufield Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 12:35 AM
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12. Let's just hope...
... the poor Mr. Erdogan is getting adequate crisis counseling.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:25 AM
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13. I don't know why you think it's funny that someone tried to hurt him...
The sarcasm is really quite pathetic, imo...
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 02:02 PM
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32. Too bad he is not overeacting
And withdrawing from the UN or NATO over this incident.

He loves the drama.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 01:58 PM
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31. Yes it is a terrible thing to joke around nt
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parkia00 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 09:11 AM
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17. You the one to point this out?
Yet you are the one who hinted that the "distraction" was a little Turkish implemented incident to attract attention?

"... like Erdogan was a bit envious of the attention Abbas was getting inside the hall -- and decided to make a little scene outside the hall."

Hypocrite much lately or should we consider it to be the norm?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 10:51 AM
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20. +1 n/t
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:43 PM
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23. Erdogon is a jerk. NT
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:59 PM
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4. Only if you are an Armenian or a
Kurd.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 04:25 AM
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14. perhaps it was a Syrian?
Turkey seizes Syrian ship, announces arms embargo

Turkey has seized a Syrian-flagged ship and will intercept any arms shipments headed to Syria, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said late on Friday, a response to Damascus' bloody crackdown on anti-government protesters.

Speaking to reporters in New York late on Friday where he attended the UN General Assembly, Erdogan said Turkey had stopped a Syrian-flagged ship in Marmara, according to state-run Anatolia News Agency. It did not indicate whether the ship was stopped in the Sea of Marmara or the port of Marmara.

Erdogan did not say when the ship was seized or whether any weapons were found aboard.

"We have already made a decision to stop and prevent any vehicle carrying any type of weapon to Syria. We told them our decision as well as shared it with neighboring countries," Anatolia quoted Erdogan as saying.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=239287
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:26 AM
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15. Erdogan is blockading weapons from Syria now, but has a problem with Israel doing that to Gaza?
Edited on Sat Sep-24-11 06:29 AM by shira
Send in some nasty rightwing thugs on flotillas and call them peace activists!

Stock the ships with some cases of Coca Cola and Cheetos!

Now it's an aid flotilla.

Come on guys, let's do it!
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 09:03 AM
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16. Do you have any proof that it is weapons Erdogan wants brought into Gaza?
Is Erdogan blocking food, medicine and all exports imports from Syria? One could gather from your 'carefully' worded posts that you seem to believe anything that gets into Gaza is a weapon
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 11:42 AM
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 11:34 PM
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24. Or a Cypriot
Turkey still occupies the part of their country too.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 08:57 PM
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35. or not read below
but it's so nice to see how some here have discovered a genocide, the Kurds, and gasp Cyprus after how many years now albeit some might call this new found sympathy cynical
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jimmie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:04 PM
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39. You are way to nice..
Erdgan is a miserable pos slug .
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 09:35 AM
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18. I still cannot find this anywhere except Ynet.
One can speculate in various ways as to why that is so, but it does suggest to me that it was not a big deal.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 10:48 AM
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19. I suspect it's not a big deal...
It sounds like the bodyguards stopped him before he could get to Erdogan. If they didn't, then they're pretty crap bodyguards...
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:12 PM
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22. Ban apologizes to Erdogan over UN guard assault
UN Chief Ban Ki-moon extends personal apology to Turkish PM over his attack by UN Guard officer

Roy Yerushalmi Published: 09.24.11, 18:41 / Israel News


UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon offered Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan a personal apology on Saturday over his assault at the UN building.

Erdogan was assault by a man the Turkish media identified as a member of the UN Guard during Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' speech at the United Nations General Assembly, on Friday.

Erdogan's bodyguards immediately stopped the man and Erdogan himself was unharmed.

"I'm afraid there was an unfortunate incident," the Turkish prime minister was quoted as saying by Ankara's daily newspaper Sabah. Erdogan did not elaborate on the incident, saying only that he was kept out of the General Assembly Hall during Abbas' speech by security guards.

The Turkish media underscored the fact that Ban offered his personal apology to Erdogan for the incident because his assailant was a UN Guard officer.

in full: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4126796,00.html
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 11:36 PM
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25. Until you posted this, I was tending towards it being a fake set up by Turkey
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 12:20 PM
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26. There really wasn't mention of it by anyone else, not that I could find when
it first surfaced.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 12:23 PM
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27. Only place I saw it was Ynet.
If the Turks were using it they would have made noise about it. (Not that I think the idea is ridiclous.)
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 12:35 PM
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28. Yea, me too...only Ynet on the update too as of yesterday anyway. I am curious who the
security guard is, how long has he worked there etc.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 12:37 PM
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29. Me too, but I have seen nothing, which I assume means they don't want to talk about it.
But I have no idea why, and speculation seems unwise without more info.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 01:16 PM
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30. Agreed. n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 08:49 PM
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33. Scuffle at the United Nations Ends in an Apology to Turks
Resurgent Turkey has become a Middle East story to watch, and just how perilous standing in its way can be became abundantly clear to a few somewhat hapless United Nations security guards during the annual General Assembly meeting of world leaders.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was apparently pushed by a United Nations guard while demanding to enter the General Assembly hall through the wrong entrance on Friday, according to diplomats and United Nations officials. An ensuing melee sent one guard to the hospital and Secretary General Ban Ki-moon scurrying over to the Turkish mission to apologize, they said.

Details of the incident remain murky, despite Mr. Ban’s often declared commitment to “transparency.” The United Nations’ spokesman, Martin Nesirky, refused to clarify what happened beyond saying the “unfortunate misunderstanding” had been “satisfactorily resolved.” The Turks made no official comment.

But some particulars have emerged from diplomats and at least one United Nations official who overheard the altercation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/world/world-peace-still-elusive-as-un-guards-scuffle-with-turks.html
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 08:57 PM
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34. LOL, thanks for posting. n/t
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 08:58 PM
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36. thanks for posting
perhaps they do want that one quiet
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 06:17 AM
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37. I bet those upthread who were joking before won't be joking about the injured UN guard...
Edited on Tue Sep-27-11 06:18 AM by Violet_Crumble
If that's what happened, you've got to feel bad for the injured guard as well as the ones who were suspended. They were just doing their jobs and I doubt world leaders walk around with big nametags saying who they are. It reminds me of the recent incident in New Zealand at a Pacific Islands forum where our PM was told to get on the spouses bus when she tried to get on the bus for the leaders who were attending....

http://www.smh.com.au/world/get-on-the-spouses-bus-nz-driver-refuses-gillard-entry-20110915-1kaeo.html
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 08:39 AM
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38. Yep.
I do feel bad for the guards, and it leads me to wonder about various things, but not enough to hazard an opinion about. This is the UN, after all, a big collection of politicians from all over the world, so what could go wrong?
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