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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 04:36 PM
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Ultra-Orthodox spitting attacks on Old City clergymen becoming daily
Clergymen in the Armenian Church in Jerusalem say they are victims of harassment, from senior cardinals to priesthood students; when they do complain, the police don't usually find the perpetrators.

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"Ultra-Orthodox young men curse and spit at Christian clergymen in the streets of Jerusalem's Old City as a matter of routine. In most cases the clergymen ignore the attacks, but sometimes they strike back. Last week the Jerusalem Magistrate's Court quashed the indictment against an Armenian priesthood student who had punched the man who spat at him.

Johannes Martarsian was walking in the Old City in May 2008 when an young ultra-Orthodox Jew spat at him. Maratersian punched the spitter in the face, making him bleed, and was charged for assault. But Judge Dov Pollock, who unexpectedly annulled the indictment, wrote in his verdict that "putting the defendant on trial for a single blow at a man who spat at his face, after suffering the degradation of being spat on for years while walking around in his church robes is a fundamental contravention of the principles of justice and decency."

"Needless to say, spitting toward the defendant when he was wearing the robe is a criminal offense," the judge said.

When Narek Garabedian came to Israel to study in the Armenian Seminary in Jerusalem half a year ago, he did not expect the insults, curses and spitting he would be subjected to daily by ultra-Orthodox Jews in the streets of the Old City.

"When I see an ultra-Orthodox man coming toward me in the street, I always ask myself if he will spit at me," says Narek, a Canadian Armenian, this week. About a month ago, on his way to buy groceries in the Old City, two ultra-Orthodox men spat at him. The spittle did not fall at his feet but on his person. Narek, a former football player, decided this time not to turn the other cheek."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/ultra-orthodox-spitting-attacks-on-old-city-clergymen-becoming-daily-1.393669

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 05:55 PM
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1. Fundamentalists of ALL stripes really piss me off.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 06:41 PM
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2. Thank G-D there's no explosives. Guns , knives or olive trees involved nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 09:45 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 01:27 AM
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 01:31 AM
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7. Are you royalty? or proclaiming something else? n/t
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 01:37 AM
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8. Huh ?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 01:04 AM
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4. well you call yourself King_David so I wondered what the meaning was
are you waxing biblical or what?
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 09:31 AM
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9. I don't get that.
Is it a new testament reference?
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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 09:16 PM
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10. It is indeed...
Edited on Sun Nov-06-11 09:55 PM by shaayecanaan
John 16:17:- And I say unto you, verily, for God so despises the appearance of his own name in internet fora, that whomsoever shall not hyphenate his holy name shall be eviscerated, and have his entrails strung in the highest branches of the highest tree on the highest hill. For it is an abomination to God, and so it shall surely cause my left nut to shrivel and die. Not my right bollock should it wither, nor my cock, but my left nut shall it make die."

Bear in mind that you might not find this in your Gideon bible, it is one of those advanced verses that is only revealed to people such as myself who are level 8 acolytes and above.

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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:04 AM
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11. I am Jewish. NT
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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:18 AM
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12. You can't be too careful (nt)
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:19 AM
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13. Heh.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 02:11 AM
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15. Ha ha
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 01:29 AM
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6. nope just unwanted body fluids n/t
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 01:45 PM
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14. ADL Urges Israeli Chief Rabbinate to Denounce Ultra-Orthodox Practice of Spitting at Christians
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"The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has called on the Chief Rabbinate of Israel to publicly denounce the repulsive decades-old practice by ultra-Orthodox Jews of spitting at Christian clergymen they encounter in the street.

"This repulsive practice is a hateful act of persecution against another faith group and a desecration of God's name according to Jewish law," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "This display of hate and bigotry has no place in Israel and is inimical to Jewish values of treating all people with respect and kindness."

In a letter to Chief Rabbis Shlomo Amar and Yona Metzger, ADL urged the rabbinical leaders to meet with Haredi leaders in an effort to end the practice and to join together to educate their community about having respect for coexistence with other faiths.

"The issue makes headlines every few years, and promises are made to combat it, but it continues every day," said Rabbi Eric J. Greenberg, ADL Director of Interfaith Affairs. "We believe it is time for Israel's religious leaders to stand up for the Jewish values of treating others with respect and kindness, and to put an end to this ugly phenomenon."

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/IslME_62/6190_62.htm
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 02:12 AM
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16. Good
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