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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 07:51 PM
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Happy Halal Thanksgiving (from Pam Geller)
"Did you know that the turkey you're going to enjoy on Thanksgiving Day this Thursday is probably halal? If it's a Butterball turkey, then it certainly is -- whether you like it or not.

In my book "Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance", I report at length on the meat industry's halal scandal: its established practice of not separating halal meat from non-halal meat, and not labeling halal meat as such. And back in October 2010, I reported more little-noted but explosive new revelations: that much of the meat in Europe and the United States is being processed as halal without the knowledge of the non-Muslim consumers who buy it.

I discovered that only two plants in the U.S. that perform halal slaughter keep the halal meat separated from the non-halal meat, and they only do so because plant managers thought it was right to do so. At other meat-packing plants, animals are slaughtered following halal requirements, but then only a small bit of the meat is actually labeled halal.

Now here is yet more poisonous fruit of that scandal.

In a little-known strike against freedom, yet again, we are being forced into consuming meat slaughtered by means of a torturous method: Islamic slaughter.

Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out while saying "Bismillah allahu akbar" -- in the name of Allah the greatest. Many people refuse to eat it on religious grounds. Many Christians, Hindus or Sikhs and Jews find it offensive to eat meat slaughtered according to Islamic ritual (although observant Jews are less likely to be exposed to such meat, because they eat kosher)."


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/happy_halal_thanksgiving.html
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 08:23 PM
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1. Just how the hell does the stupid woman think Kosher slaughter accomplishes it?
The throat is cut in one continuous, quick, deep cut with the sharpest knife possible to reduce the animal's pain. However, the throat is cut, just as it is in halal slaughter, the carotids along with the jugulars, and unconsciousness is nearly instant and death is rapid.

I know in Kosher slaughter, if the slightest nick is found on the knife after slaughter, the meat is considered unfit to eat because the animal suffered unnecessary pain, ditto making more than one quick cut. I'm not sure about halal slaughter, but so much of the other stuff is equivalent, that might also be true. Both methods insist the least amount of blood possible be left inside the meat.

Geller is truly an idiot. If a broken down Irish ex nurse in East Buttcrack New Mexico knows this stuff, why doesn't she?
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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 12:14 AM
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7. Sadly, we can conclude that she knows exactly how it is done.
Anyone who bothered to look could discover that the actual slaughter is identical in both religions. Many of the comments at The American Thinker make the same point. Responsible Jewish commentators have noted it for some time. I remember Dennis Prager (certainly no liberal) talking about it several years ago. Michael Medved too, I think. The info is available on Wikipedia, at Jewish Virtual Library, and other places on the web. How could any responsible journalist not know the truth? This article is just beyond the Pale.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 12:41 AM
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8. Agreed. She plays on the ignorance and fears of her target audience...
Both Halah and Kosher methods are more humane than run of the mill slaughter, especially in some Indonesian abbatoirs. Me, I don't care which religious guy's blessed the meat I'm going to eat coz it all tastes the same, and that's all that matters to me. Gotta admit I got a bit distressed back when I was going through my Morrissey inspired I'd Become A Vegetarian If I Didn't Like Meat So Much era and saw some videos of how animals are slaughtered. They were so bad I didn't eat anything but salad for about 24 hours afterwards! :hi:
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Dick Dastardly Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:23 AM
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10. Kosher ham is pretty delicious. So are kosher baby back ribs.
:rofl:
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 08:37 PM
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2. How is this an I/P topic
:shrug:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 11:18 PM
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5. Articles about Islamophobia and antisemitism are usually posted here...
I haven't seen you object when it comes to any about antisemitism, some of which you've posted yrself.

Anyway, I saw this posted in GD, so it's good to see it's getting a far larger audience up there.


Knowing how fond you are of Arutz Sheva, I did a quick search and found Geller wallowing with her fellow Muslim-haters there getting her hate on for Obama the former Muslim. Enjoy!

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/7688#.Ts8WND0k72I
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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:01 AM
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9. Because this is where the cool people hang out (nt)
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Goat or Panic Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 08:43 PM
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3. Islamaphobia
Here's a wikipedia link to the similarities and minor differences between halal and kosher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Islamic_and_Jewish_dietary_laws

Many Muslims will look for the kosher symbol on foods because it means it was prepared similarly to Islamic law.

Pammycakes was the right-wing nutter that was linked to several times by the Norwegian mass murderer in his hate manifesto.

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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:52 PM
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4. When I heard this story last night
I went to the Butterball web site and thanked them on behalf of my Moslem friends.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 11:40 PM
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6. That's a good reaction, imo.
My guess is they'd be getting a flood of hatemail from Geller's army of nasties, so it's good when good folk like you send a positive email coz it minimises the bullying of the bigots :hi:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:01 PM
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11. Pamela Geller was no. 2 on my list of most cherished LGFers.
No. 1: Iron Fist. His favorite weapon was fire.

How cool is that!

Both gone now, alas.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:08 PM
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12. From the OP: In my book "Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance"
Edited on Fri Nov-25-11 01:08 PM by bemildred
Another one:

Pamela Geller: ‘I Endorse Herman Cain. What He Doesn’t Know, We’ll Teach Him’

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/pamela-geller-i-endorse-herman-cain-what-he-doesnt-know-well-teach-him.php

:popcorn:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 12:05 PM
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18. Looking forward to Pam Geller teaching Herman Cain how to keep his dick in his pants. n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:46 PM
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13. Do we really need Pam Geller on I/P?
In any case, kosher and halal killing are pretty much the same. But one doesn't expect logic from Geller.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:28 AM
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17. Well, we apparently also need Pajamas Media and Arutz Sheva here....
I don't mind OPs like this one, where the person starting the thread is doing so to point out the sheer hatred of the Geller's of this world, but I have a bit of a problem with ones that are posted due to support of what's being said...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 12:26 AM
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14. ROFL
From the comments on Mondoweiss:

Shmuel says:
November 24, 2011 at 8:23 am

The real question is how a patriotic American like Geller can still call it “turkey” (named after an anti-Semitic, terrorist Islamic state seeking world domination – before we knew any better)? Why not “freedom fowl” or “pilgrim pullet”?

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/pamela-gellers-islamophobia-hits-new-low-on-thanksgiving-day-smear-of-dietary-laws.html
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:43 PM
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15. How are turkey's usually killed? shot in heart? Gassed? electrocuted?
Edited on Sat Nov-26-11 03:43 PM by azurnoir
what would Pammy have be afraid of Grandma and Grandpa suddenly arising from the dinner table shouting Allahu Akbar or what?
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Little Tich Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 09:05 PM
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16. Halal meat converting Aussies: MP - The West Australian
Source: the West Australian

A WA Liberal MP has claimed Australians are unknowingly being converted to Islam by eating Halal meat.

In a speech to Parliament yesterday, backbencher Luke Simpkins said most Australians did not know that most of the meat they ate came from animals killed in accordance with Muslim law.

“By having Australians unwittingly eating Halal food we are all one step down the path towards the conversion, and that is a step we should only make with full knowledge and one that should not be imposed upon us without us knowing,” Mr Simpkins told Parliament.

“What is happening is wrong. Too often the minorities in this country are looked after without regard to the majority.”

Read More: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/12032577/halal-meat-converting-aussies-mp/
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