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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 08:43 PM
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Maher's humiliation
Maher's humiliation
Dec. 24, 2003

If a picture is worth a thousand words, unedited video footage is far more telling yet. This was demonstrated Monday as the entire world watched Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher humiliated, jostled, and pelted with shoes, until physically lifted off his feet and carried away from his frenzied attackers. His eyes betrayed vivid panic.
Nothing could have more forcefully expressed what he had just experienced, when he attempted to pray at the Aksa Mosque on the Temple Mount, than the terror writ large on his face as the 68-year-old statesman struggled to regain his breath.
The fanaticism and hooliganism that greeted him at a hallowed place of worship could not be covered up by Egyptian attempts to play down the entire incident and ascribe it to a minuscule rabble. The visual record belies the spin from President Hosni Mubarak's bureau, as well as Maher's own pronouncements upon returning to Egypt, when he belittled the onslaught.
To sweep under the rug the hostility Maher encountered on Temple Mount is to distort the very reality which has so far frustrated all efforts to reach even minimal accommodation with the Palestinians – not only to end their terror war against Israelis, but also to ease their own self-imposed hardships. It's a reality which defies self-interest and logic, but this makes it no less of a reality.
When Maher was violently accosted and branded a traitor, he came face to face with the frightening aspect of Palestinian intransigence and extremism.
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Maher was attacked because of his "Israeli connection," because he dared conduct talks with the leaders of the reviled Jewish state. If this is how Palestinians treat ostensible mediators, what can the Jews themselves expect? And if this is how Palestinians manhandle their boosters and comrades, what would they do to their Israeli enemies? If this is what's meted out to their fellow Muslim faithful, what would happen to Jews who attempt to pray at the Western Wall if the Temple Mount were turned over to Palestinian Authority control, as the Arabs, Egypt included, routinely demand?
For Egypt to pooh-pooh the episode is to display hypocrisy which calls into question its claim to honest-broker status. For Israel to paper over this ugly reality is to take existential gambles which may lead to national suicide.
What Maher met on the Temple Mount isn't the exception to the rule, it's only the tip of greater virulence. A recent poll among Palestinians revealed that 58 percent oppose even the Geneva Accord's formulations, dangerous though they are for Israel's continued existence. This extremism impelled the terrorists to rebuff Mubarak's cease-fire scheme. This extremism is born of unbridled incitement which Egypt regularly tolerates.
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Come Together Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:25 PM
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1. What a great article! Just right on!!
Therefore, expect the source rather than the substance to be attacked.

:yourock:
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:35 PM
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2. Racist, right-wing stupidity
This writer is a bigoted idiot
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:59 AM
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4. Amen
Resistance...
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:29 AM
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10. Reference my post #9
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 05:15 AM
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6. Every word he said was true, and deep down you know it.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:28 AM
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9. Again, Resistance?
How is the writer "racist" and "bigoted"? :wtf:
Explain this to me. :wtf:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 10:44 AM
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11. The piece is racist
The piece takes the actions of a particular mob of Palestinians in Jerusalem, actions that it rightly condemns as "fanaticism and hooliganism", and then proceeds to apply the characteristics of the particular to the general. All Palestinians are condemned because of the actions of this particular mob. The piece is explicit in this:

Those who continue to murder Israelis even if they thereby damage their own cause, are also those who assaulted Maher. They are not a marginal minority. They embody the situation Israel is up against.

That is no different from citing the lynching of a black man in the South to condemn all white Americans or the beatings of Palestinian farmers harvesting olives by thugs among Israeli settlers in the West Bank to condemn all Israelis (or worse, all Jews).

This piece implies that Palestinians in general are incapable of reason and that peace with such people is almost impossible. In spite of obvious difficulties, that attitude is unacceptable. Peace must be made, which means that Palestinians need to be treated as adults who can make wise decisions, not assumed to be a race wholly governed by their passions.

Beyond that, the piece is right in calling on Egypt to do more to condemn the mob violence. Indeed, we all should. However, that call must be made with the hope and even assumption that the general population that spawned such a mob also possesse the means to condemn it.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 10:55 AM
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12. Exactly mr Rabbit
this piece is generalizing and demonizing. Which is not so uncommon among such sources...
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:16 AM
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3. geez . . . when I saw this headline, I thought . . .
oh, God . . . what did Bill Maher do now??? . . .
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 05:14 AM
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5. I thought maybe Ann Coulter had slapped him on camera.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 05:19 AM
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7. That J Post editorialist is da man, doin' the best he can...
to make the world a better place. O8)
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Come Together Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:16 AM
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8. Might I refer you
to Message 1? :eyes:
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