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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:00 AM
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Sharon's Speech
By URI AVNERY

He read out the written text of his speech, word for word, without raising his eyes from the page.

It was vital for him to stick to the exact wording, since it was an encoded text. It is impossible to decipher it without breaking the code. And it is impossible to break the code without knowing Ariel Sharon very well indeed.

So it is no surprise that the flood of interpretations in Israel and abroad was ridiculous. The commentators just did not understand what they had heard. That's why they wrote things like "He did not say anything new", "He has no plan", "He is marking time", "He is old and tired". And the usual Washington reaction: "A positive step, but"

Nonsense. In his speech, Sharon outlined a whole, detailed--and extremely dangerous--plan. Those who did not understand--Israelis, Palestinians and foreign diplomats--will be unable to react effectively.

<snip>

Source: http://www.counterpunch.org/avnery12232003.html

Very interesting article.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:08 AM
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1. Any
comments?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:12 AM
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2. Yes...
I love reading Uri Avnery and I'd already read this one, but I don't know if it was posted here before or I read it somewhere else....

On a side-note, have you read anything by Benny Morris? I haven't, but I just got hold of a book of his called 'Righteous Victims' and so far I'm finding it a good read and his writing style doesn't get too dense or bogged down...


Violet...
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:15 AM
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3. Sad to say Violet...
I'm not a big fan of Uri.....especially after seeing him
swapping spit with his arafat.

Yeah, Uri is pretty scuzzy to me.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:17 AM
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4. let me guess
a "terrorist supporter" right? :crazy:
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:21 AM
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5. Oh no...
Uri is just a self-impressed terrorist apologist.:freak:
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:24 AM
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7. Oh my Don
It seems you have a problem with the whole anti war left in Israel apparently and all those opposing Sharon (calling them misguided) Your comments are truely revealing...
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Come Together Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:33 AM
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9. ...as are yours.
:wtf:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:41 AM
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11. How?
Apart from revealing bluesoul as an anti-war progressive, that is...


Violet...
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Come Together Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:03 AM
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17. do the words
diversionary, off the point, accusatory appear in your vocabulary?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:05 AM
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19. Yes, they do...
And as bluesoul's post was none of those things, yr going to have to explain why you saw it so...

Violet...
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:47 AM
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14. As are mine...
:wtf: :wtf:
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Saudade Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:31 AM
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8. "terrorist"
The word "terrorist" has become the most dishonest word in the english language.
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Come Together Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:35 AM
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10. Not really. There are others.
...not gonna list 'em...don't want deletion of post!



:kick:
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:46 AM
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13. Yes Don...
They are very revealing...
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:22 AM
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6. When did he 'swap spit' with Arafat?
From all I've read of him, Uri Avnery is a man who it'd be very hard not to admire, and it's obvious he feels a deep love of his country. You have a problem with that?

What does scuzzy mean? That's a word that doesn't get used over here...

Violet...
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Come Together Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:44 AM
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12. Web search produced hug, not kiss...
"Arafat publicly embraced Avnery, put him next to him on the tribune and called him "my friend"."

I could continue my web search, but I don't think it really matters if they even had sexual relations! O8) :evilgrin:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:48 AM
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15. And?
How does this make Avnery such a terrible person? Or is any Israeli publicly embraced by Arafat an *enemy of Israel* perhaps?

I'd probably prefer it if you actually had an opinion to share on the article that was posted, but if you want to google the night away, be my guest! ;)

Violet...


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Come Together Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:01 AM
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16. I merely attempted to find
an answer for you to your #6, Miss Crumble.

:yourock:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:04 AM
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18. Well, thanks for trying, I guess...
Any chance of you answering my #11 or even maybe giving an opinion on the article that was the topic of this thread?


:yourock: x5!! ;)

nyuck nyuck...
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Come Together Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:08 AM
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20. Reply II for Miss Crumble
I did not say nor imply that Avnery is a terrible person.

The article, however, is simply a treatise on his apparent psychic ability as he goes through the litany of what will happen.

Rather than read so many assumptions, I would rather read some remedies.
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