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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:31 AM
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Mother of 7 indicted for aiding suicide bombing
Latifa Abu Thra'ar, 39 was indicted Thursday at the Samaria Military Court for having transporting an explosives belt for a suicide bomber on December 8 and assisting the planning of the attack.

Halil Marsud, a member in the Al Aksa Martyrs' Brigade, enlisted Latifa, gave her the belt and explained that soldiers would not be searching women as carefully as they did men.

Latifa, a resident of the Balata refugee camp near Nablus, is a mother of 7, and was to be paid NIS 300 for her assistance. She gave the suicide bomber the belt near Kfar Kassem and instructed him to continue to Rosh ha-Ayin – near Tel Aviv, promising to take care of his family after the event.

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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1072325996889&p=1008596981749

She promised to take care of his family. What a humanitarian.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 08:11 AM
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1. MADD =
MOTHERS ADVOCATING DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.

Nice...i am sooo glad the vast majority of palestinians
really,really want peace and we should ignore ALL
EVIDENCE to the contrary.

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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:27 AM
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2. One more thing...
"When the suicide bomber and his companion saw that their chances of getting past security were slim, they backtracked and were caught by soldiers."

would this *woman* have been so proud of herself if
she killed 7 israeli kids??...apparently

:puke:



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Cry Freedom Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:45 PM
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3. that was obviously the idea
n/t
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:47 PM
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4. LOL
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 01:36 PM
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5. The majority of Israelis voted for Sharon
That tells me they're not too interested in peace either.
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Cry Freedom Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 01:39 PM
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7. Not necessarily
I believe the majority of Israelis voted for Sharon out of fear.

Fear turns people to the right.

Basic safety is one's first need.

Could you see that as a possibility; thinking of what happens in Israel when there are suicide bombings?

I'm not trying to change your mind; just offer my alternative reasoning.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 01:59 PM
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9. Oh I understand it
But voting out of fear is the worst way to go and results in things like the Patriot Act.

Voting for Sharon to make people safer is shortsighted and totally self-defeating.Sharon has placed Israel in jeopordy just as much,if not more, than any suicide bomber could ever hope to achieve.Sharon,like Arafat,has no concept of peace.If safety is the Israeli's first concern they made a hell of a bad choice to bring it about.Do you believe that Israel is safer now than before Sharon came in? In my opinion,Sharon is helping Israel destroy itself,and contrary to what some here may think I believe that's the last thing I want to see.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 03:43 PM
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11. The majority of Israelis did NOT vote for Sharon.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 03:51 PM
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12. I'd like a link.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:35 PM
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20. Oh, so the actions of
some sickos in a group means the WHOLE group is suspect? Isn't that the same kind of bullshit reasoning that people used and still use against the Jews and other groups, if some members did it then the whole group is like that and are all guilty? I don't think so.
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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:57 PM
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21. Nope
what it DOES mean is that the courtesy of not searching Arab women as a sign of respect for their culture has to be abandoned now since that unwritten courtesy has been used to try and kill innocents.

Of course, that courtesy never went the other way as Palestinian bombers quite happily murdered Israeli women.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 01:37 PM
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6. Some mother
Taking motherly love to new heights :puke:
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 01:45 PM
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8. Thank you.
eom
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 02:01 PM
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10. No arguments on the sickness of this from me Don
It's one twisted,bloodthirsty region.This shit,from all sides,needs to stop.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:08 PM
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13. Why did this happen?
Do you think this would have happened if they were not taught by Muslim fundies that suicide bombing guarantees a place in heaven? Muslim fundamentalism is the elephant in the room with respect to the Muslim world that we liberals tend to ignore.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:11 PM
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14. Jumper....
you seem to have a unique perspective.

someone said earlier that "islamism is fascism".

do you agree with that??
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:55 PM
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15. Islamism is a form of fascism IMO
Edited on Fri Dec-26-03 04:10 PM by _Jumper_
Like fascism, it is a discredited philosophy that is the cause of much grief in the world, particularly in the Muslim world. The Muslim world will become more isolated from the rest of the world and hence fall further behind the world if Islamism is eradicated.

I am surprised by how many DU'ers defend Islamism while attacking Xian American fundies. The Islamists are even worse than Falwell and co.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 05:26 PM
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16. Interesting perspective...
i must, sadly , agree.

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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 05:28 PM
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17. Offending for
Muslims...
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:05 AM
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23. I am anti-fundie
I oppose all forms of religious fundamentalism. I do not give Muslim fundies a free pass like some people here do. :scared:
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:36 AM
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25. So you're also
against Israeli extremists and RW like Sharon, Likud and the likes that would want to drive Palestinians from their homes into other countries?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 05:32 PM
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18. or,to put it another way-Christianity is a form of fascism,imo
Like fascism, it is a discredited philosophy that is the cause of much grief in the world, particularly in the Western world. The Western world will become more isolated from the rest of the world and hence fall further behind the world if (or did you mean 'unless') Christianity is eradicated.

Now it sounds a little better.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:04 AM
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22. I am anti-religion
I will not defend any religion. However, the West is secular and the fundies are isolated here. I long for the day when the Muslim world is secular.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:11 AM
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24. Indonesia isn't secular?
That's strange. I thought it was...


Violet...
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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 05:52 PM
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19. I'd have to classify the current Islamic Fundamentalism
as the equivalent of a mix of the philosophies of The World Church of the Creator with the popular credibility of Falwell. And if that combination doesn't scare people, they not bothering to think.
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