Schumer, Clinton Back Administration on Israel’s Security Fence

[Herschel]

The Bush administration should be commended for its opposition to the International Court of Justice making any ruling on Israel's security barrier, New York's two U. S. senators said Sunday.

"A fence is defensive," Sen. Charles Schumer said. "And if the Palestinians don't want a fence, then let them stop -- and Hamas, and Jihad and Al Aqsa, and everybody else -- from sending suicide bombers into Israel." Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said the question of whether Israel should build a fence as a deterrent to terrorist attacks "is at best a political decision, and in our courts, as in the International Court, political issues are not legal issues, and the court has no jurisdiction." The senators, both Democrats, spoke at the Jewish Community Relations Council of New York's 25th annual congressional breakfast in midtown.

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http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/newyork/politics/nyc-israel0202,0,6126282.story?coll=nyc-manheadlines-politics

In America, it would seem only radical leftists oppose little Israel sheltering herself.

[Forkboy]

1. dupe

[Dark Star]

2. not a dupe

if you are referring to my article about Senator Clinton.

It didn't mention Senator Schumer.

[WyLoochka]

3. Hillary is a huge disappointment

She's become a PNAC aider and abetter in exchange for her seat in the Senate via New York's Jewish vote.

Why didn't she run from her own home state, Illinois, or her adopted one, Arkansas? She would have spared herself the temptation of copping to towing the absurd "little Israel sheltering herself" line in order to try to secure her re-election.

What I expected her to do was to be bold and say it like it is - she's 180 from expectations.

And no matter what she cops to - if Giuliani runs she'll lose anyway.

Huge huge disapointment - she could have really made a difference.

[GabysPoppy]

4. Your post is load with inaccuracies

1. Hillary won in New York by a way larger amount than the "Jewish vote".

2. Her "re-election"?. One must be a sitting senator to be re-elected.

3. You expected her to be bold? Seems she is getting MORE attention than a junior senator in their first term than most previous freshmen. A fairer statement may be that she is not doing or saying what you want her to do.

4. Don't bet your paycheck on Giuliani beating her in a head to head match. Were that even close to being true, Rudy would be fund raising right now for just such a contest and he is not doing so. The only thing Rudy has going for him is 9/11 and that will eventually wear thin. It holds in popularity by comparison because of the cowardice evidenced by Bush during those days. Remember he tried to thwart NY constitutional law back then by wanting to keep hold of the Mayorship beyond the days of his term limitations.

5. She is making a difference! If her health plan wasn't so brutalized by lies and distortions by her critics, maybe there would be a "real" dialogue concerning this major problem in America going on right now and we wouldn't be getting this piece of shit from the other side stuffed down our throats.

[BayCityProgressive]

5. I like Hillary

and I need to look into the issue of Israel more closely. You hear different people claiming completely opposite things about the situation and it is hard to sort out the truth. I'm sorry I don't know much about the six day war but didn't the arab nations invade Israel first? Also, after all the hundreds of years of persecution, you have to imagine how paranoid the poeple in Israel are. Look at the sheep in this country just from one terrorist attack. Also, it seems suicide bombers are constantly coming over the borders..how do you propose they stop them? Hamas has already said even if Palestine is given a state they will drive the Jews into the sea. So what is the answer?

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[brainshrub]

6. Hillary lost my support long go, and this seals it.

She's not better than Lieberman.

[JasonDeter]

7. Considering Israel is surrounded by 1.5 BILLION Muslims

"Israel sheltering herself" by the fence is a very prudent until the Muslims get a handle on the terrorists rising up in their midst. It will never happen though and I for one look forward to corrupt regimes like the Saudi, Egyptian and Jordanian falling and those who really rule be revealed, the lying double speak we have to constantly listen to (sometimes even from the hellhole called crawford ranch) is so tiring. Eventually those regimes will fall and the world will see what Israel really has to deal with. A fence is not enough! Claymore mines and sharpshooters to further protect the fence and innocent Israeli citizens would bring Israel closer to a more secure nation. imho of course.

[MikeGalos]

9. Not quite true

Your statement "In America, it would seem only radical leftists oppose little Israel sheltering herself." is really not quite true.

A more accurate version would be: "In America, it would seem only radical leftists and radical rightists oppose little Israel sheltering herself." since there is a frighteningly large overlap in statements between the far right and the far left in their condemnation of Israel's right to exist.

[beanball]

10. Little Israel

small in size(land),but they have big guns and large planes,and oh yes WMD,its ok for them to have WMD but not the Arabs such hypocrisy.

[Blitz]

11. Yes, it is OK for them to have nukes and not the Arab nations

Just like it's OK for us to have nukes but not Iran or North Korea or other radicalized, violent, unstable regimes. nothing hypocritical about it.

[MikeGalos]

13. And this rant

has what, exactly, to do with the post you replied to?

[Blitz]

12. That's quite right

Hatred of Israel is the place where the KKK and International ANSWER can find common ground.

[MikeGalos]

14. True

When one of David Duke's anti-Semitic web sites had a banner link to International ANSWER and IA didn't raise any objection when they were notified, that said a LOT.

[Chicago Democrat]

15. The Wall is a Massive Land Grab..

.. and that is why it is wrong and illegal. The wall goes far inside of Palestinian territory. It completely isolates and cuts off huge portions of the West Bank. That is why it is wrong. That is why it is illegal. If Israel wants a wall. Let them build it on their side of internationally recognized borders. Otherwise it must come down.

The fact that Clinton and Schumar don't even mention the fact that the wall is almost entirely built on Palestinian land speaks volumes about the complete hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty in the statement of the wall being "defensive" and "reasonable". It is a radical act, not reasonable. It is a land seizure. It is Israeli crime in response to a Palestinian crime. Stealing is wrong.

What happened to Hillary Clinton? When did she completely sell out the the American Pro-Israel Lobby?