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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:03 AM
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Reuters Breaking: 3 explosions in Ashdod, Israel
Edited on Sun Mar-14-04 11:26 AM by alg0912
Suicide Bombers Suspected in Israeli Port Blasts

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JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Palestinian suicide bombers are suspected of involvement in a double explosion that killed at least eight people in Israel's port of Ashdod Sunday, Israeli security sources said.
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CNN reporting a third explosion... :( 8 dead, 20 injured so far...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:04 AM
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1. What an ugly week. nt
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CerealMurderer Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:06 AM
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2. Looks like someone doesn't want peace
I hope they don't derail the peace talks.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:14 AM
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3. Welcome to DU! Great handle.
:toast: :toast: :toast:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:21 AM
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4. CNN now confirms all three were suicide bombers...
:(
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:37 AM
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5. Someday they'll realize that this hurts them far more than it helps them
:mad:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:42 AM
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7. It's a vicous cycle
When bombs and war are your only solutions, no one will ever win.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:53 AM
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8. Very well stated ..
nt
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:29 PM
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20. Very well said. There are no winners in I/P. n/t
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 04:51 PM
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57. Yes actually there are
The war profiteers and the land-thieves
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:10 PM
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:18 PM
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12. probably the day after forever.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:39 AM
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6. Update: 9 dead...
CNN also reporting two groups, Al-Aqsa and Hamas, are both claiming responsibility...
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:53 AM
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9. I don't believe them
Who knows who did this really, or who was behind it. I don't trust a effing word they tell me anymore, not one. I guess you have to ask "who is it that gains." I think that there are so many twists unknown to the masses that maybe we will never be really sure who is behind all the madness. Stop the world, I want to get off.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:35 PM
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24. Hamas and Fatah have claimed joint responsibility.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:25 PM
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41. Unsurprising
That Arafat's own were involved.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:18 PM
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:18 PM
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13. you're kidding right ?
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macdevo Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:23 PM
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15. Not really
These are crazed people. They blow up buses with women and children. They don't respect weakness, and don't want to negotiate.

Both sides have been negotiating for years, and no amount of talk will ever stop them from killing each other.

You don't try to co-exist with poisionous snakes, you arradicate them.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:28 PM
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:03 PM
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36. You sound...
on the far side of "crazed" yourself.
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mallard Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:22 PM
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14. Re: ghosts of baghdad
You're kidding, right?
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macdevo Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:25 PM
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17. I am sick of it
I am sick of my Jewish brothers and sisters being slaughtered

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Logansquare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:30 PM
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45. I'm sick of my human brothers and sisters being slaughtered
An eye for an eye has been tried and tested for five thousand years, and its a miserable failure.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:24 PM
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16. I propose the exact same treatment for anyone in the US
who advocates & supports putting weapons of terror in the hands of any government overseas. Just think! We could eradicate terrorists soldiers and governments in one fell swoop. Brilliant idea Macdevo!

We could even start at home! Anyone creating, profiting from, and spreading weapons should recieve your treatment.

It would be rough getting to that kinder, gentler world but once we got there- it would be worth it right?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:30 PM
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21. LOL.
Whom should we start with? Halliburton? The CIA?
The entire Latin American Desk in the State Department?
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:43 PM
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34. The entire Reagan administration would be gone. n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-14-04 12:44 PM by Darranar
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:26 PM
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42. Kill everyone who is Evil!!
Yes kill all the evildoers, their friends and all their relatives!

Tell your mother I hate her! Tell your mother I hate you!

Someones just tried to shoot me! The children are having sex! Beth is pregnant!

(Now dear its time for your medicine)

Don't you touch ME! You disgusting filthy piece of scum! My skin crawls with the touch of scum!

Sounds like "Desperate Living" by Jon Waters

I'm not your maid, BITCH! I am your partner in crime!

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:28 PM
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19. No more Mr. Nice Guy, eh?
The gloves are off!
Slow to anger, but terrible in our righteous wrath once aroused.
Sounds like an Arnold movie to me.

More seriously, what you advocate is indiscriminate killing as
a solution to indiscriminate killing. While this might give
one a gratifying sense of vengeance, it is unlikely to reduce
the amount of indiscriminate killing.
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macdevo Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:33 PM
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23. you're right
You're right, but it would work, unfortunately.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:37 PM
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27. ?Huh? nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:39 PM
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29. Actually it's been done many times.
It rarely works at all, and never does it work well.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:34 PM
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46. No, it's never worked well...it just creates more enemies...
...and they eventually overwhelm you. Just ask, in no particular order, the Romans, the Egyptians, the French, the English, the Soviets, and the Nazis.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:11 PM
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38. For the record
That is pretty much the policy the Soviet Union used to protect its nationals in Beirut. It did work. Anyone caught harming or kidnapping Soviet nationals was hunted down and killed, as were their families.

They didn't get kidnapped after that.
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lefty_mcduff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 02:45 PM
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52. No offense dude, but wasn't the Soviet Union
referred to as 'The Evil Empire' ?

One would hope that if the nuts in Likud were to attempt any similar program, USA funding would dry up in a heart beat.

Supplying arms to Israel would be unequivocally illegal at that point (the whole murdering civilians thing).
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 05:08 PM
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60. None taken
It was an effective technique, that's all. Even terrorists have limits and that was my point.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 04:30 PM
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56. Yes, that story seems to pop up now and then when I
point out that this sort of mindless violence is not only
unpleasant but stupid. I've never been able to source it.
OTOH I can't find it on snopes (so far) either.

For the record, that policy seems to have worked really well
for them in Afghanistan too, and of course it's been a big
success in protecting them in Chechnya. It seems clear in
both places that no kidnappings or killings of Russian/Soviet
nationals occurred once they had properly "disciplined" the
locals.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:03 PM
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62. Collective punishment
The only effective deterrant to terrorism is punishing the immediate families of terrorists. That is harsh but the cost of terrorism must be raised to a point where even the most rabid terrorists are not willing to pay it.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:33 PM
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22. By the way, enjoy your stay here.
:-)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:35 PM
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25. Ann Coulter would be proud of you
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macdevo Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:37 PM
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26. no no
Just because I can't stand killing of my Jewish brothers and sisters doesn't mean I agree with anything else Culter has to say.
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:39 PM
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30. how about the killing of your innocent Arab brothers
by your jewish brothers ?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:42 PM
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:11 PM
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37. But...
isn't that what you just advocated?

When we identify the person's responsible, kill thier children, wives, and every living blood relative with a bullet to the back of the head.

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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:13 PM
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39. "You are wacked"
LOL

coming from you
I'll take is as a compliment
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:26 PM
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43. Sounds like a much different tune than the one you were singing before.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:37 PM
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:40 PM
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31. Why, the glories of collective punishment! n/t
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:45 PM
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35. Flashback:
Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past — I'm not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble — recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin's penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an "enemy of the people". The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, "clan liability". In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished "to the ninth degree": that is, everyone in the offender's own generation would be killed, and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed. (This sounds complicated, but in practice what usually happened was that a battalion of soldiers was sent to the offender's home town, where they killed everyone they could find, on the principle neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet — "let God sort 'em out".)
http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire021501.shtml

Why is it,
that the people who espouse such views,
present company included,
NEVER EVER take a dose of their own medicine?

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:24 PM
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40. I don't think...
...the NeoCons are going to like you talking about them like this.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:58 PM
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49. "kill thier children" ????
:wow:

hey, um how bout boiling em in oil, while there parensts
listen to there screams, that 'l show m eh

(Dark humor sarcasm switch set back to off position) :o
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:41 PM
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32. Yet another reprehensible strike on innocent civilians...
This sort of thing needs to stop, regardless of who does it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:28 PM
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:44 PM
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48. No, let's start with Hamas and Fatah
Since THEY did this bombing. THEY murdered these people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 02:05 PM
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macdevo Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 02:39 PM
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51. I know spelling sucks
I was taking a phone call while I wrote arradicate them.

I meant to say <strong>eradicate</strong>
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 04:52 PM
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58. The likud
a terrorist party of thugs.(terrorist&thugs are the same).
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 03:46 PM
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54. Not a bad idea. n/t
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:40 PM
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47. It does but I'm giving up hope
It's as if the gates of hell have been opened everywhere. How do you stop the chain of events that is taking place all over the world now? Everyone wants justice. Everyone wants revenge. And neos all over the world fanning the flames.


The ground everywhere is soaked with the blood of innocents. God says He hears their cry.
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 03:00 PM
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53. at least 10 dead
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 03:57 PM
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55. This is an example of why we should annihilate terrorism.
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 04:58 PM
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59. Terrorism
can not be annihilated,you must annihilate the terrosist.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 05:36 PM
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61. lets annihilate artillery barrages, carpet bombing, shock n awe
war and the boogy man ...

"Terrorism can not be annihilated,you must annihilate the terrorists"

exactly Terrorism is a tactic , people use Terrorism as a tactic
for whatever cause ...
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