Israelis call for Sharon to resign

[Tinoire]

Israelis call for Sharon to resign



A thrill of fear ran through Israel Tuesday, March23 , following the assassination of Hamas spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmad Yassin.

As security has also been boosted at Israeli Embassies around the world, for the residents of Israel it seems only a matter of time before Palestinian resistance fighters carry out their threat to avenge the death of wheelchair-bound Yassin.

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A statement purporting to be from a group affiliated to Al-Qaeda urged Monday retaliation against the United States and its allies for the Israeli crime.

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On the financial landscape, stocks slid to new lows after the Israeli crime has fed global security fears and prompted a broad decline. The security concerns sent major stock indexes down more than 1 percent to their lowest levels since December.

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Israeli left-wing activists demonstrated Monday in Tel Aviv in front of the ministry of defense, calling for Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who oversaw the assassination of Yassin, to resign.

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http://www.turks.us/article.php?story=20040323165552271

[corporatewhore]

1. Yay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:party::party::party: :bounce: :bounce:

[Tinoire]

5. Jewish Voice for Peace Condemns Israeli Killing of Hamas Leader

Jewish Voice for Peace Condemns Israeli Killing of Hamas Leader

SAN FRANCISCO - March 22 - Jewish Voice for Peace, the largest Jewish peace group of its kind in the United States, earlier today criticized the Israeli government for its assassination of Hamas' spiritual leader, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin.

Yassin, one of the founders of Hamas, was killed by an Israeli missile attack. Palestinian reaction has been strong, and leaders of Hamas and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades as well as others have made threats of escalated violence against Israelis. Israeli opposition leader Yossi Beilin said, "Pandora's box has been opened...the question is how many Israelis will be killed." Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia called this a "crazy, dangerous and cowardly act."

"Ariel Sharon has once again put Israeli lives in peril with an act that is sure to escalate the violence in this conflict," said Mitchell Plitnick, co-director of Jewish Voice for Peace. "Sharon is well aware that this action will not hurt Hamas, an organization with a de-centralized leadership structure. On the contrary, this will strengthen them. This attack has already provoked enormous sympathy for Hamas among the Palestinian population. This puts Israelis in even more danger. These extra-judicial killings are crimes against international law. They bring no one closer to peace or security and only strengthen the forces of violence."

Jewish Voice for Peace calls for international intervention to stem the tide of violence and for negotiations for a full Israeli withdrawal from all territories occupied in 1967 to begin under international direction immediately.


http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0322-03.htm

[Dover]

25. Sharon is a dead man walking....

I hope they are successful in obtaining his resignation because otherwise the level of violence will only continue to escalate. Assassination is not a workable solution or policy for any leader. Do you hear that Bushco? The same response might occur if bin Laden were killed (if he hasn't already).

[Sugarbleus]

30. I partly disagree with that assessment...

I think covert assassination or arrest is a totally viable way to take a "foe" out of circulation.. instead of sending in zillions of troops and bombs to kill everything near the target.

However, what happened with this Hamas leader wasn't assassination...it was MURDER. It was INCITEFUL. It was a dumbass move on Sharon's part.

I AM happy to hear from Jewish Peace activists though. That part is extremely encouraging. :thumbsup:
Respectfully....

[RainDog]

37. Sharon not fit to shine Rabin's shoes

http://www.juancole.com/

Everyone should be clear that murdering Yassin bestowed no operational advantage on Israel. Yassin was in the political and religious wing of Hamas. He did not plan or carry out tactical terrorist actions, though he certainly approved of them as a form of national liberation struggle (on the other hand he did sometimes talk of trying to achieve a 100-year truce with Israel; that aspect of this complex figure is gone, opening the way for a new generation of violent young men to come to the fore in Hamas, with no restraint whatsoever on their thirst for vengeance). Yassin was an old half-blind man in a wheel chair. Israel could have arrested him and tried him anytime Sharon chose. Sharon could even have had him executed after a fair trial, staying within the bounds of the rule of law. Who could have objected to a terrorist being tried and sentenced? To take him out, using American missiles, was just a fancy way of murdering him, destined to produce more hatred against the United States at a time when we don't need that. It is a form of state terrorism, designed to instill terror in a civilian population. Sharon is nothing more than a mafia don who rubs out other mafia dons, and doesn't care how many innocent women and children get sprayed by the machine gun fire (were Yassin's 7 companions all guilty of capital crimes? How would we know without a trial?) The lot of them belong in jail.

Sharon has done nothing for the US effort in Iraq. Has Israel offered any monetary aid to the US for the effort? The Israeli per capita income, at $17,000 a year, is higher than that of Spain, but the Spanish managed to contribute. Actually what I remember is that when the Israelis heard there was going to be a war, they came trooping to Washington with their hands out, asking for an extra $4 billion. Yes, folks, the US taxpayer was asked to fork over $4 billion to Ariel Sharon. Why? Because US men and women from Nebraska and Missouri and the other states were being put in harm's way in part to protect Israeli interests in the Middle East? We had to tax ourselves for the privilege of contributing to Israeli security?

So not only has Sharon done nothing for us or the Iraq effort, but ever since September 11 he has behaved with brutal insensitivity toward American interests. The weekend after that horrifying event, Sharon was attacking Palestinian targets, further inflaming anti-American feeling. A decent man would have put off such actions out of respect for the 3000 US dead. Indeed, a decent man would have sought peace and reinvigorated the Oslo process to help the US out. Sharon wouldn't recognize decency if he were served a steaming bowl of it next to the two lambs a day he must devour to stay at that obscene weight.

The most dangerous regime to United States interests in the Middle East is that of Ariel Sharon, not because he fights terrorists, but because he is stealing the land of another people and is brutalizing them in the process--and those are people with whom the rest of the Middle East and the Muslim world sympathizes. A US counter-insurgency fight against Muslim radical extremists requires winning hearts and minds, which is impossible as long as Sharon behaves the way he did Monday, since everyone in the region knows that the US coddles the Israeli Right. Israel once had a proper prime minister, Yitzhak Rabin, who knew how to make peace and how to be a good partner for America. Sharon is not good enough to shine his shoes.

[truth2power]

38. Excellent post! Thank you. n/t

[bluesoul]

39. Wow!

So not only has Sharon done nothing for us or the Iraq effort, but ever since September 11 he has behaved with brutal insensitivity toward American interests. The weekend after that horrifying event, Sharon was attacking Palestinian targets, further inflaming anti-American feeling. A decent man would have put off such actions out of respect for the 3000 US dead. Indeed, a decent man would have sought peace and reinvigorated the Oslo process to help the US out. Sharon wouldn't recognize decency if he were served a steaming bowl of it next to the two lambs a day he must devour to stay at that obscene weight.

The most dangerous regime to United States interests in the Middle East is that of Ariel Sharon, not because he fights terrorists, but because he is stealing the land of another people and is brutalizing them in the process--and those are people with whom the rest of the Middle East and the Muslim world sympathizes. A US counter-insurgency fight against Muslim radical extremists requires winning hearts and minds, which is impossible as long as Sharon behaves the way he did Monday, since everyone in the region knows that the US coddles the Israeli Right. Israel once had a proper prime minister, Yitzhak Rabin, who knew how to make peace and how to be a good partner for America. Sharon is not good enough to shine his shoes.


Brilliant!

[stepnw1f]

2. Excellant!!!

[prodigal_green]

3. Appeasers!

or just war-weary.

Do they have any chance?

[tlcandie]

4. About time!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boot his ass, then * and Blairs! Thank you Israelis for being willing to stop this madness!!

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[tlcandie]

8. Would that be like left wing dems being traitors as well?

:shrug:

[madrchsod]

12. just kidding

it`s nice to see some posts that actually make sence for once...

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

10. No... If they don't like Sharon, they're anti-semitic.

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[nothingshocksmeanymore]

7. Great article Tinoire

the handful of rabid posters in I/P are not indicative of any Jews that I know....almost all of my friends said the same yesterday...Sharon is whacked,,this will NOT make Israel safer....they just guaranteed the worst

[tlcandie]

9. Thanks for this ! Nice to hear that the I/P posters are FEW rather

than the many because they scare me with their hard line rants and ravings :/

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[rooboy]

11. I don't know if this idea has been proffered in the US...

but Martin Indyk was interviewed on Australian tv yesterday, and he had a simple theory on why Sharon was going after the Hamas leadership now. Because Israel is planning to pull out of Gaza, they want to kill all the Hamas leadership so the Palestinians can't claim victory like the Hizbollah did when Israel pulled out of Lebanon.

I hope that's not true, but I suspect it might be. Maybe there should be a UN declaration that all Israeli and Palestinian men have big dicks, so their leaders won't feel so compelled to show how big theirs is all the time...

[madrchsod]

18. from what i have read in

the last few days this is what sharon is thinking. after setting up hamas ,sharon wants to punish them for not being good employees...

[Tinoire]

21. I heard on CNN International (you know, not that shill CNN America)

that Yassin was the only strong Hamas leader with the vision to negotiate with Israel for a 2 state solution.

I am so much more cynical than you (but sheesh I do hope you're right). I see Sharon as doing everything he can, like Bush, to justify "having" to go after the terrorism he creates. If Sharon pulls out of Gaza, I'll stand naked at the highway on-ramp for a week with a sign reading "I eat my words".

[Matilda]

33. Tinoire, once again, I think you're right.

although I wish you weren't. Sharon is not going to change the way
he operates.

The only way for peace in Israel/Palestine will be through
negotiations brokered by an American president with a functioning
brain and genuine goodwill to both sides. But unfortunately,
by the time that happens, it may already be too late for
Palestine.

I have no doubt that Sharon will have his wall well and truly
hemming in Palestine before the U.S. election. And there will be
no going back.

[kalian]

13. Excellent news!

Israelis need to take control of their government and their lives.

The continued spiral of violence is due to old cronies that are
bent on covering up their own corruption and greed.

[MisterP]

14. It gets worse

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1176587,00.html

[Tinoire]

22. Tongue in cheek

Israel's internal security minister, Tsahi Hanegbi, said the government had given a green light to the army to kill "the worst terrorists".


Could it mean they're coming after Bush? Going after Sharon too?

[tlcandie]

15. Something that popped into my head... could Sharon be doing this

to actually create total chaos so that the US has reason to come in and finish off the job for him against the Palestinians and/or have an easier move into other countries?

I know this is from out in left field, but I can't help but wonder if this hasn't been planned for some odd PNAC/empire thing? I just can't believe that this cabal is clueless about Sharon. It seems brazen, but this cabal is full of brazen idiots just like Sharon.

[Tinoire]

23. Brazen idiots?

I'd settle for brazen, evil, soul-less reptiles.

No one in this cabal cares a whit for either an Israeli or an American life. What they feel for brown lives is even more contemptible.

Let's hope your idea is wrong because it's not that far left field.

[Quetzal]

31. Wag the dog?

He has been going through some scandals lately.

[UpInArms]

34. well, it is easy to say

"he started it when he hit me back"

so very childish in the thinking - so destructive in the reality.

[madrchsod]

16. i just read an article from

aljazeera where the Israeli supreme court put a halt to the spraying of "round-up" on the Arab Bedouin`s crops. the idf also has sprayed other Palestinian areas ,destroying trees and crops. spraying "round up" from airplanes causes injuries to people and live stock. spraying "round up" seems to me the same as spraying "agent orange"
maybe the people will be heard...

[tlcandie]

19. This is what the US does in South America and pays the governments

there to do...spray Roundup or something similar to destroy 'purported' cocoa crops which misses and kills good crops and kills/maims/deforms the people as well. Additionally, it pollutes the rivers, etc. and kills the forests. Additionally, the residents/natives clear more land and plant more crops which results in more and more deforestation, flooding, yada yada yada.

But they don't care!

[Chicago Democrat]

20. If a House Is Divided

From the book "The New Covenant, commonly called The New Testament; Volumne 1: the four gospels and the Apocalypse", translated by William Barnstone

The Gospel of Markos
Chapter 3; verse 23, page 56

Gathering them together, he spoke to them in parable,

"How can Satan cast out Satan?
If a kingdom is divided against itself
that kingdom cannot stand.
If a house is divided agaisnt itself
that house cannot stand.
And if Satan rises against himself and is divided
he cannot stand but comes to an end.
No one can enter the house of the strong man
to plunder his possessions
unless he first ties up the strong man
and then he will plunder his house.

Truly I tell you
the children of man and woman will be forgiven
for everything, their wrongs and blasphemies
as much as they blaspheme.
But whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit
will be unforgiven everlastingly
and be guilty of everlasting wrong
for they had said 'his spirit is unclean'."

[lebkuchen]

24. Even CNNI reporters looked nonplused over the assasination

especially after interviewing Israeli leaders who thought that plan was a recipe for peace.

Coalition countries are shaking in their boots, w/EU leaders having gotten together to bolster security measures. The Israelis have to be terrified.

[jeanmarc]

26. That would be a good idea....

He's been an abysmal failure.

[sushi]

27. Good news

There are thinking people in Israel!

I can't stand leaders who make decisions that put their people (their employers!) in danger, while they travel in bulletproof cars, and are surrounded by bodyguards.

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[Chicago Democrat]

29. I pray for peace

I fear for war

[psychopomp]

32. Sharon, like Shrub, has made his country more endangered

His misplaced judgement has ratcheted up the violence rather than make Israel safer.

[Disturbed]

35. Declaration of War.

This will bring more bloodshed on both sides and enrage the other Arab nations even further. A wise move?

[RainDog]

36. Yes!!! Sharon and Likud MUST GO

If Bush really wants to get rid of those who endanger America with the threat of terrorism, then Sharon and all the Likudniks, including Perle and Wolfowitz, must go, and Bush must support the Israelis calling for Sharon's resignation.

Take it to the streets, Israelis!!!

Sharon is a war criminal, just like his friend, Bush, now with the illegal invasion of Iraq.

A peaceful solution for Israel and Palestine will make it harder to recruit terrorists.

[tinnypriv]

40. Big deal

Many on the right have been calling for Sharon to resign for ages (for many reasons).

There was a bigger demonstration than this by the settlers the other day too, so I wouldn't overstate the importance of this.

[Lithos]

41. Locking

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