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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-04 12:36 PM Original message |
Protesters form 'human chain' to protest pullout |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-04 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. So they're getting in the way of government policy |
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meti57b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Anyone who remains in front of a moving bulldozer .... |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-04 09:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. yep pretty much what I expected |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. It's called Blaming The Victim... |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I was just a kid back then |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 07:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. I predate you by a bit... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 06:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. This doesn't have anything to do with |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 06:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. They are squatters that are living on Palestinian land |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 07:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Right |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 07:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Oh, please! |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Well, Ma'am |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Your comments are, as always, well articulated. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 08:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Are you sure about that? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. The Machine Hiccoughed |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 01:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Jewish Population in Palestine |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 03:34 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. The number of Arabs in Palestine (Filastin) post WWI was 1,000,000+. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 04:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Which shoe..? |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. There were few Jews living in Palestine until the 19th century. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. "Rivaled in numbers" |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 04:46 AM Response to Reply #34 |
74. Spanish Exile |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
83. Interesting that you buy into the idea that... |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 09:30 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. They all are, as you say, descended from the same race. |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. You're still speaking of the Jews... |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Haven't you heard of the Diaspora? |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 11:10 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I'm part of the Diaspora... |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 12:20 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Once again, I'm not saying the Jews haven't been there all along. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 01:01 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. "the Israelis" |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
97. Language is not always consistent |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Those settlers are a big problem for both Palestinians |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. The "settlers" |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. "Most will testify?" |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. It's not |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 08:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Bypass roads... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 05:39 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Deleted message |
Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 03:09 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. I've given you the only logical explanation... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 04:27 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Disputing the legality |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 04:56 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. That communication problem thing is kicking in again... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I have |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 07:32 AM Response to Reply #60 |
78. Sorry, but you haven't explained how the settlements are legal... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 07:53 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Read the post here |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 06:45 AM Response to Reply #82 |
93. That doesn't explain why you think the settlements are legal... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-04-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #93 |
102. The non-existence |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-06-04 03:15 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. The Geneva Convention makes no reference to sovereignty... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. In 1998 |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. uprooted to satisfy... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Because of the conflict |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. WTF |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 08:16 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Your thrust |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Blame and Hatred |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 07:19 AM Response to Reply #35 |
58. I would rather |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
51. Rather it is the opposite |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 04:33 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. The Disengagement plan uproots Palestinians? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. The settlement plan does precisely that, and has since 67. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. How do you surmise that? |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. yep, I agree ... |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Or she may have been a passionately committed idealist. |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Cold |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
50. Maybe it is because she assumed the bulldozer driver had a moral conscienc |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 12:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. This is called... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
8. They can always come back to America |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Hmm |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
63. It was their home first |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-04 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. Gee, I feel so bad for the squatters. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 04:15 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Child abuse |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 09:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. I didn't blame the children. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 11:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. More deaths |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. "How about a little fire, Scarecrow!" |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 06:54 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Your arguments |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
62. Fewer settlers would be killed if they weren't stealing the land of the |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. Don't you get tired of straw men arguments? |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-04 06:08 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. That wasn't |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. So, stealing land ISN'T wrong? |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I'm not sure it is clear |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 01:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Seriously? |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 03:25 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. there is a governance |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 07:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
79. The Occupied Territories have never been part of Israel... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 07:49 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I didn't say it was |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. Israel still has no right to steal the land... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 06:01 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. The land |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 08:32 AM Response to Reply #18 |
32. As should we all! |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. LOL |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-27-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. The victims |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Settlements - "can't have it both ways" |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 06:43 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. They are pawns |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-28-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Pawns?? |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 04:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. The bypass roads |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 04:58 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Those roads cut up the West Bank... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Is there any other way? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 05:35 AM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Of course there is... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 07:18 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Roads |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 07:31 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. What's the purpose of all those checkpoints? |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 07:44 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Check points |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 06:58 AM Response to Reply #80 |
94. I asked what the purpose of all those checkpoints were.... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:17 AM Response to Reply #94 |
104. the information is dated |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. I know WHAT they're being compensated for |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. The legal context |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #68 |
85. May I suggest that they are not in Israel's parameters, |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. World order |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. they can close any gate they like |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Actually |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. not up to Israel to decide |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-04-04 02:47 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Military necessity |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-04-04 12:39 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Palestinians who don't have Israeli citizenship |
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