Israel Paralyzes ‘Roadmap’ Peace Plan, Kills Truce

[vierundzwanzig]

Annan: Israel Has No Right to Resort to Extra-judicial Measures

23/08/2003


Palestine Media Center – PMC

The fragile, US-sponsored “roadmap” peace plan has been paralyzed and is in danger of complete collapse in an all-embracing war Israel is launching on Palestinian people and national authority, following the collapse of the Hudna (truce), which was unilaterally declared by Palestinians on June 29, due to Israel’s policy of what UN chief Kofi Annan called “extra-judicial” killing of anti-occupation activists.

Israel plans more of “extra-judicial assassination” against the leaders of the anti –Israeli 36-year old occupation if the Palestine National Authority (PNA) doesn’t not begin arresting and disarming activists within 24 hours, Israeli officials warned on Friday following a lethal helicopter missile strike on Hamas leader Ismael Abu Shanab in Gaza city.

An Israeli security source said all Hamas leaders were now considered fair targets and new strikes would be launched after a 24-hour lull to give Palestinians a chance to act, agencies reported.

"This is only the beginning," a senior Israeli security source told Reuters on Friday, a day after a helicopter missile strike that killed Abu Shanab and two bodyguards.

"We plan serious retaliation on the terrorist infrastructure," he added.

http://www.palestine-pmc.com/details.asp?cat=1&id=1012

[shockandawed]

1. Israel is starting to resemble (dare I say it)

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[liberalhistorian]

2. Israel is in for some long-overdue criticism,

I, for one, am tired of the Israel-can-do-no-wrong attitude and approach that our government has always taken. My Jewish friends tell me how disappointed they are in Israel, that it didn't become the kind of country it was originally founded to become and it isn't what it used to be, especially since the illegal settlements.

There will be no peace until we recognize the humanity of the Palestinians and what is being done to them by Israel in the name of "security." No amount of "security measures" against and persecution of the Palestinians will result in peace for Israel, it will only continue to get worse.

[rini]

4. Israel

Of course is not the socialist state it was meant to be. Look at the causes. You talk about criticism of Israel, but you are criticising the wrong things. You criticise it for defending itself, not for becoming too much like its enemies. Israel recognising the humanity of Palestinians isn't the problem, the problem is Palestinians recognising the humanity of Israelis.

[liberalhistorian]

5. How can the Palestinians do that

when everything is being taken from them, their land, their homes and farms, their water supplies and sources, their jobs, they're crowded into horrific camps and treated like animals, etc., etc., just to make room for the settlements that have no business being there in the first place. Israel does not have the right to do everything and anything they can against the Palestinians in the name of "security."

[rini]

7. Avalon papers

As a historian you should be familiar with the Avalon papers, as well as the UN documents and resolutions, as well as how to look up facts. Look at the Black September organization, in other words be a historian and do your homework, don't be a revisitionist just to get published. Be a historian.

[vierundzwanzig]

8. Avalon papers

Federalist documents?

You are losing me.

[Violet_Crumble]

9. They're talking about the Avalon Project...

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/avalon.htm

For someone studying the occasional history unit, it comes in handy. It's an archive of primary documents packaged into neat little categories so you can find what yr researching easily. Personally, seeing Rini's misuse of the word 'revisionism', it's pretty clear that he thinks a primary school (is that elementary school in the US) education gives him the skills to sit and waffle about what a historian does. It only took a basic first-year history unit for me to learn that revision is healthy and that history isn't some static thing that remains the same. While there's historical revisionism that isn't healthy, such as the stuff from the holocaust deniers, no real historian would tell you that all historical revision is bad, just the extreme stuff that I mentioned...

Violet...

[quilp]

6. Where is the "humanity" in stealing someone elses country?

"Israel" was called "Palestine" a few years ago. Palestinians are called "Palestinians" because that was where they lived for centuries. Something the "Israelis" want the world to forget. "Israel" is not defending itself. It is trying to deceive the world into believing that occupying a country is "defending" it. And it seems to be succeeding.

And before you compare "the humanity of the Israelis" with the "humanity of the Palestinians" take a look at how Palestinians are actually living under the Israeli occupation of their country. There seems little "humanity" shown by Israelis.

[SOS]

10. The "road map"

exists principally as cover for Tony Blair's taking the UK to war in Iraq. He desperately needed something positive to come from the Iraq mess and pushed hard for Bush to make an effort on the I/P issue.
The road map exists only as a political football and will lead to nothing.