Blair calls for 'total end' to terrorism

[drdon326]

British Prime Minister Tony Blair presented a clear message during his visit to Jerusalem yesterday: The cessation of Palestinian terrorism is a paramount need for the renewal of the peace process, and the quid pro quo from Israel has to be the provision of a diplomatic horizon.

"There has to be a complete and total end to terrorism" in order for peace talks to succeed, Blair said. The world has changed in the last few years and people everywhere are fighting terrorism, he said. Terror was not a means to peace but an obstacle, he added.

In private talks, Blair was even more blunt, saying the Palestinians would get no assistance or political support from Britain unless terror stops. U.S. President George W. Bush will also not help them, he added.

When there are actions, "not just declarations," it will be possible to return to the road map, he said.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/518024.html

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more reasons why I love the British.....and Blair.

[cornermouse]

1. Huh? What road map?

[Englander]

2. Since Bliar is a war criminal..........

it's no surprise that some folks love him.

[The Magistrate]

4. Nonetheless, Sir

He is correct in this matter. As a matter of practical fact, unless the leadership of Arab Palestine abjures violence against Israel by its own organs, and acts to prevent violence against Israel by private militia bodies seperate from its pseudo-state structures, there will be no peace save that imposed by the victor in his own time and manner, no amelioration of the condition of the people of Aerab Palestine, and fulfillment whatever of their legitimate aspirations for statehood and security.

[drdon326]

6. In addition.....

it would be really helpful if the PA would put an end to the state-sanctioned media incitement to terrorism.

Demonizing,sub-humanizing,and calling for genocide against israelis and jews tend to make negotiations and respect somewhat difficult.

[RC]

7. How about stopping the

"Demonetizing, sub-humanizing, and calling for genocide against the Palestinians that tend to make negotiations and respect somewhat difficult."

Thaink that would help?

(Corrected mis-spelling and spacings)

[QueerJustice]

26. according to some people....

...rhe world is run by ``war criminals``...which only goes too cheapen the facts of real war criminals....



:eyes:

[Englander]

38. If you don't think Bliar is waging an illegal war....

what are your thoughts on Bush?

Is not starting a pre-emptive illegal invasion a "war crime"?
If not,what is?


Blair 'war crimes' case launched
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3524133.stm

Greeks accuse Blair of war crimes in Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1007915,00.html

http://www.impeachblair.org/

Blair Faces War Crimes Suit
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/052503D.shtml

[QueerJustice]

46. ok EVERYONES a war criminal...

Even the war criminals....kumbayah...

[BikeWriter]

3. He might ought to tell Bush and Sharon...

...to stop their terrorism.

[QueerJustice]

27. terrorism...?

I never saw Sharon send a 11yr old teen from Tel Aviv high into a teen disco or pizza parlor and blow herself up and take with her 25 other teens , just so this monster can have sex 72 times in heaven....

....now that would be terrorism.......

[BikeWriter]

36. Please remind me, why was Sharon dismissed as Defense Minister? n/t

[QueerJustice]

45. not for sending a teen to blow up...

...another group of teens (for sexual gratification),,,,but for not stopping Lebaneese militias from massacaring innocents... remember??

[BikeWriter]

49. Yes, there were hundreds he abetted the slaughter of weren't there...

...including women and children?

[drdon326]

5. No weasel words.....

no discussion of....

militants
freedom-fighting
activists
insurgents


just call it what it is....Terrorism.

[GoBlue]

8. When the Palestinians have free access to the legitimate forms

of terrorism (armies, weapons, munitions, etc.), then they, like the Israelies did, will end their illegitimate terrorism. But peace requires the end of both kinds of terrorism.

[drdon326]

10. Lovely thought....

perhaps if those friendly folks at hamas only got a few GLOBAL THERMO-NUCLEAR DEVICES it would all end, huh?

Thanks for not inflicting us with the ever-present insipid "cycle of violence" monologue that often shows up about now.

[mogster]

11. What ABOUT the cycle of violence?

In a century-old conflict there's no such thing as innocence.

To find an endlösung to the Palestinian 'problem' without the cooperation of the palestinian people seems to me an offroad policy to follow, not to speak of 'off the road-map'.

I think Blair can create peace in the Mid-East as easy as a serial rapist can woe to his victims, getting them turned on to 'make love'.
This time around.

No one trusts this third rate son of a bitch to do any good, and as the PM Ahmed Qureia duly notes:
"We are in need of a peace conference and not a meeting."

Further observations by Haaretz:
"Blair gave more details of his planned London conference during a visit to the Middle East on Wednesday, saying that it would focus on Palestinian political, economic and security reform. Israel has no plans to attend.

Diplomats said Blair's conference idea was a scaled down version of what had originally been grander plans for a meeting to help revive Middle East peace efforts"

Scaled down peace plans.
Yep. Sounds like Blair, allright.

It's his WAR plans that get's all the attention ;-)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/518378.html

[drdon326]

12. Not to worry....

Qurie told the last honest broker to go fuck himself.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/041223/325/f94ar.html


I guess the only one left to broker is Chirac.:puke:

[mogster]

13. Which 'honest broker' and where does the article say 'go fuck yourself'?

eom

[drdon326]

14. Obviously....

you don't believe Blair to be an honest broker.

And to PUBLICLY rebuke a world leader like that is basically telling him to go fuck himself.Pretty insulting actually.

[mogster]

15. So. We got ourselves a 'world leader' in Blair, have we? ;-)

And does that 'world leader' have any particular support from the world's population? Let alone his own people?

Blair's support in Britan has dwindled steadily since the Iraqi debacle started, and it wasn't much noted prior to that. The Brits think he stinks. Remember the huge peace demonstrations in the UK?

I'll let BBC's Paul Reynolds say it:
'George W Bush has brought to his presidency the fervour with which he converted to Christianity during his younger years and the determination with which he suddenly gave up drinking.

He has something of the convert about him.

And yet, those who have met him often say that he charms them. Certainly, the British Prime Minister Tony Blair has been.

Tony Blair admired in George W Bush far more than a firm handgrip and a look straight in the eye.

He saw in him a soulmate who was ready to change the world. The British prime minister had already demonstrated over Kosovo in 1999 that he was quite prepared to use ground troops.

The American President, Bill Clinton, was taken aback.

George W Bush was not. He and Tony set out to put the world to rights.

Whether they will become a version of Don Quixote and Sancho Panza is for the history books and the cartoonists'

Don Quixote and Sancho Panza are now trying to wage peace in the Mid-East - a sure sight to see.

[QueerJustice]

28. in a nutshell....

thats the problem here.....

[newyorican]

35. Any theory that can fit in a nutshell...

belongs in one.

[The Magistrate]

19. As A Point Of Curiousity, Mr. Mogster

You suggest, in your No. 11 above, that the co-operation of the people of Arab Palestine is essential to any peace settlement, and that is probably the case. What form do you think this co-operation should take, in the present circumstances? What do you think the leadership of the Arab Palestinian people ought to do to mobilize and demonstrate such co-operation?

"All we are saying is give war a chance."

[mogster]

21. If we give the Palestinians a Versailles-peace

We'll get a post-Versailles scenario of unrest and un-cooperation.

Humiliation never creates peace, it creates resentment.

A Meeting of the Versailles Peace Conference, 1919.

With Arafat gone there's finally a chance of getting the Israelis to trust the leaders on the Palestinian side and go for negotiations. Over time. Problem is that there seems to be little trust from the Palestinians towards the Israeli leadership, Sharon has just too much blood on his hands.

If you give war a chance, you'll just feed the extremists new recruits--war is in itself an extreme condition.

[The Magistrate]

22. The Devil Is In The Details, Sir

What do you feel the people of Arab Palestine must do to co-operate with the search for peace? What actions do you think the political leadership of Arab Palestine ought to do to mobilize and demonstrate such co-operation?

"A nation is a group of people united by a mistaken view of history, and hatred of their neighbors."

[mogster]

23. Go ask them, not me ;-)

Sir.

[The Magistrate]

25. Why, Sir?

You have suggested peace cannot be secured without their co-operation. What co-operation on their part do you feel is needed? What do you think the people of Israel ought to consider to be evidence of co-operation?

[mogster]

37. If I thought you'd really wanted my opinion

I'd answer you.
As it is, I'm having the feeling that you just want me to declare myself as being free from strange, irrational hatred towards jews based on xenophobia and prejudice.

Which, with all respect, is a question you should have the balls to ask to my face.

Merry Christmas, Sir.

[drdon326]

42. ".....you should have the balls to ask to my face."

Where should he meet you?

[mogster]

51. Well.

If you spent half as much time checking your sources as you do posting snide, cheap oneliners, one actually might want to read some of your opinions.

[drdon326]

52. Ouch.

:shrug:

[The Magistrate]

55. Clearly, Doctor

We face a master of the art here....

"If silence was golden, you couldn't raise a dime."

[The Magistrate]

43. What A Busy Little Mind You Have, Fellow!

It is very difficult, Mr. Mogster, to level an accusation against a stranger without opening a window into your own soul, for we see little except ourselves in the world around us, unless forced to it. The possibility of your having a "strange, irrational hatred towards jews based on xenophobia and prejudice" had never crossed my mind till this moment, though now that you have accused me of imagining you do, it must be considered a possibility. My query to you was meant as what it was, and as what it remains: an attempt to discover what, in your view, constitutes the co-operation with the achievement of peace on the part of the Arab Palestinian people and their political leadership that you have yourself declared is essential to the establishment of peace in this matter. And so, again, it is repeated. What form do you think co-operation by the Arab Palestinian people should take, in the present circumstances? What do you think the leadership of the Arab Palestinian people ought to do to mobilize and demonstrate such co-operation?

"Oh would some Power the Giftie gie us, to see ourselves as others see us!"

[mogster]

50. Busy it is

> My query to you was meant as what it was, and as what it remains: an attempt to discover what, in your view, constitutes the co-operation with the achievement of peace on the part of the Arab Palestinian people and their political leadership that you have yourself declared is essential to the establishment of peace in this matter.

Yeah, right.
That's why it has taken the form of a demand, queryed now for the third time? :-)
Sorry, pal. I'm not a part of your blame game. This is not the only I/P-forum in the world, and the song remains the same everywhere.
If you study the topic of this thread, it was about Tony Blair--not the Palestinian people. I've posted my opinion on that matter.

PS. For the record: The Palestinian leadership should get their act together.
And so should the Israelis.

[The Magistrate]

57. You Know, Fellow

You begin to interest me strangely....

You see so many things in a simple and straightforward question! A question prompted by your own comment that the co-operation of the people of Arab Palestine was a necessary ingredient for peace. As that is my own view as well, naturally my desire was to explore the matter to discover what form you envisioned such co-operation taking, and see whether we might have some overlaps of agreement, despite our different stands overall, in some details of that matter. It often develops, on such exploratory engagement, that the differences between people's views here is really less than meets a first glance.

And yet rather than respond honestly and straightforwardly to a simple question, you have chosen instead to read into it various accusations, and displays of boorishness, on my part. This suggests to me an interest more devoted to heat than light, something that is of little use, and common as dirt in this dispute. It is also something that does not suffice to remove the question from the table, or slake my own interest in having an answer to it.

So again, Mr. Mogster: what form do you envision the co-operation of the Arab Palestinian people essential to securing peace should take, and what do you think the political leadership of the Arab Palestinian people should do to mobilize and demonstrate that co-operation?

"Peace, n.: In international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting."

[King Mongo]

53. How to create peace

In order to create peace, the people of Yesha (everyone living in the occupied territories) must unite, arm and remove the occupation forces using those methods available to them or they must seek recognition, representation and equality in the Israeli government. The international community, following democratic principles, must help and support the people of Yesha with their struggle against the occupation so that they can gain complete equality or a two-state solution.

[The Magistrate]

56. What You Seem To Be Suggesting, Your Grace

Is a renewed spasm of violence on the part of the people of Arab Palestine living in the lands overrun in '67. Of my reading is not in error, what leads you to imagine this will be any more successful than previous such efforts along the same line? It is an elementary maxim of strategy that an attack which has failed ought not to be repeated on the same line, and that a mere stengthening of the effort is not sufficient to condtitute a fresh line....

[King Mongo]

58. Ending the occupation

While I am against the usage of violence, I understand that people have the right to defend themselves. The difficult situation with this conflict is that, no matter what Palestinians do, they will be pushed further towards the dead sea. If Palestinians use violence, they will be pushed further towards the dead sea and if they don't use violence, they will be pushed further towards the dead sea.

Seeing this logic helps us to understand that both Palestinians and the illegal settlers (everyone in Yesha) must join forces and stand up against Israel. How they choose to practice self-defense is their choice. I do not know which methods work the best. Yet, I understand that together, the people of Yesha can succeed in gaining the international pressure that will force the occupation forces to withdraw and recognize an independent nation next to Israel in which the illegal settlers and the native people can live together under conditions of equality and democracy.

[BikeWriter]

39. "Israel has no plans to attend." That says it all, doesn't it? n/t

[number6]

17. Go--Blue

:thumbsup: :yourock:

[QueerJustice]

59. In South Africa or Northern Ireland...

Never ever did they stoop so low as to kill innocent teens in a disco or Pizza parlor or massacre whole families eating Passover dinner,,,,

,,,and they achieved there aims......

.....this kinda barbarism is almost unique...

[xchrom]

9. takes a terrorist to know one i guess

the same goes for the state of israel.
imagine a brit joining with the israelis to point fingers at middle eastern people fighting occupation in their own homelands.
to me it's just whining by people who started the whole thing and don't like how the other side plays.
well too bad -- it's a tough neighborhood.

[The Magistrate]

18. Have A Care, Sir

That argument fails the mirror test rather spectacularly. It is quite possible to sustain on the historical record the position that acts by Arab Nationalists introduced violence into the situation, so that it would be within bounds to claim the side you support "started the whole thing", and should, say, the Israelis take to wholesale artillery bombardments or carpet bombings, you would doubtless brindle were your protests greeted by jeers that you were just "whining" because you "don't like how the other side plays," and told it was just "too bad --- it's a tough neighborhood."

[xchrom]

40. the british have a history of unbridled terrorism

unmatched by any in history.
for blair to whine about palestinian terrorism is ironic in the extreme.
magistrate you know that i always admire your logic and continue to do so -- however the act of moving thousands of refugees, immigrants, and what ever else you want to call them into Palestine was a violent act.
it has caused untold pain and discomfort for what has now become millions.
nobody asked the palestinian in the street to sacrifise his/her life and heritage for others -- regardles of mufti this and u.n. that.
it was and remains exactly the opposite of what we so proudly proudly procelytise here in the west -- an individual determining their own destiny.
so spare me the notion that some how the arab or the paelstinian started any of this bullshit -- it reamins rooted in europe -- and the arab and the palestinian have had to bear the brunt of the price tag.

[number6]

44. true and my opinion of Blair (the poo...dle) gets lower .....

everyday .....

[The Magistrate]

48. In The History Of This Question, Mr. Chrom

We employ standards that differ somewhat from each other's, which goes a long way to explain the occassions where we reach differing conclusions.

Life has taught me to employ a narrow definition of violence, for if one does not, if one begins to react to things, however painful, that do not actually involve physical blows "as if they were violence", the range of difficulties that can be encountered only begins with the police. It is child's play for an agile mind to demonstrate that a fellow who sells snacks in the parking lot of a company manufacturing widgets for trucks that are leased to a concern that moves parts from one plant to another where they are put into sub-assemblies for the manufacture of the charges for ejector-seats in a warplane that is used to drop a bomb on some unfortunate town that lands near a shool and kills several children has engaged in an unspeakable act of violence and really ought to pay for it at the point of a pistol.

The purchase of land by Jews in Palestine early in the last century was not violence. The political success of the Zionist leadership during the Great War in gaining English patronage was not violence. The riots employed by Arab Nationalist leaders beginning in 1920, aimed at getting England to change its mind, and at frightening Jews into departing Palestine, were violence, and mark the beginning of violence on any scale in this particular question. It was a most unfortunant judgement by that leadership, that continues down to the present day to cause difficulties for the people of Arab Palestine.

That is particularly unfortunate because much of what you say is true, and does not deserve in any wise to be quibbled with. The people of Arab Palestine have come out on a damned short end of the stick, and deserve it no more than any other people who must pay the forfiets earned by an incompetent leadership, and that has to be acknowledged regardless of what side one takes up in this matter.

[QueerJustice]

29. ... a really togh neighbourhood....

...which required tough responses to win......thats why the Angels are winning...

:)

[xchrom]

41. oh that's not racist

much:eyes:

[QueerJustice]

60. Racist How?

I seen those eyes before somewhere...looks eerily familiar to me,covered with mascara methinks....

[number6]

16. Blair calls for 'total end' to terrorism

so when is the USA, Britton and Israel going to stop ?

[QueerJustice]

30. Everyones a terrorist?

...except the terrorists I guess?

Freedom fighters?

[number6]

31. terrorism is a tactic

Everyones(a terrorist)uses it.

or you could call it shock n awe ...:nuke:

[Darranar]

33. Oh, cease the moral equivalency!

Don't you realize that murdering an Iraqi, Afghan, or Palestinian is fully justified self-defense, while murdering an Israeli or American is obviously brutal terrorism?

[QueerJustice]

34. yep murdering teens in a disco or pizza parlor is exactly the same...

...thing...

[bemildred]

20. "There has to be a complete and total end to terrorism"

No there doesn't, and it's highly unlikely in any case unless
peace talks and some sort of workable settlement occur first.
The best you can hope for is the occasional interlude of just
"ordinary violence".

If you wait until the "complete and total end to terrorism" you
will wait forever.

[Darranar]

24. The only way to end terrorism is to have peace...

this attitude results in no progress.

Looking at what he and Bush have done to Iraq, this is rather hypocritical anyway.

[DemFromMem]

32. Even a serious effort to stop terrorism would be welcome

My guess is that the Israelis and the rest of the world would be satisfied if the PA made a genuine effort to fight terrorism even if it was not enough to defeat it. In ten years, the PA went from trying to fight terrorists to not trying to fight them anymore to actually supporting terrorism.

I'm optimistic Abbas is trying to turn things in the right direction. But he needs to show some courage and not be afraid to couple his anti-terror rhetoric with real action.

[King Mongo]

54. how to combat crime

In order to combat crime, security forces need guns. Without guns, security forces can't do anything. Police cannot magically turn criminals into angles by waving flowers.

Furthermore, the conditions of unequality in the occupied territories are encouraging the people living in the occupied territories to rebel against those who are supposed to represent them. Equal and fair representation for everyone in the occupied territories would greatly assist in the practice and enforcement of law.

[IndianaGreen]

47. What a hypocrite!

A total end to terrorism? How about British terrorism in Northern Ireland, or British criminal alliance with Bush in the invasion of Iraq?

Blair should pull British troops out of Northern Ireland and Iraq before he goes about preaching to anyone about terrorism. How many Jews did the British hang during their Mandate of Palestine?

:puke:

[QueerJustice]

61. Yes troops should be pulled outa Northern Ireland....

The problems in Dar four should be solved,Chechnya Independence resolved,Saudi Arabian totalarism abolished,Colombian drug problem resolved,ousting of Robert Mugabe accomplished,the nukes in Tehran incinerated,Thailand's re-unification question sorted out,re introduction of Independence to Tibet,a cure for AIDS,and an end to global warming..........

.....should all be done before Tony Blair dares to tackle the I/P question......

[The Magistrate]

62. Thailand Has A Re-Unification Question Pending, Sir?

That is news to me....

[QueerJustice]

63. oops Taiwan.......

[The Magistrate]

64. Not Korea, Sir?

You understand, of course, that your course of "do these first" is impossible of accomplishment, and so it would seem to be fair to translate it into a declaration that no effort should be made in the area of particular interst to you....

[QueerJustice]

66. It was sarcasm in reply to #47

Us commenwealth people are full of sarcasm...It just dawned on me your from the USA...I always thought you were English?


....its pretty obvious to myself that those other things can not be resolved 1st (global warming??)...but Indiana Green said``Blair should pull British troops out of Northern Ireland and Iraq before he goes about preaching to anyone about terrorism. ``


I guess my ``wit and sarcasm was wasted`` :(

[The Magistrate]

76. It Can Happen, Sir

"Comedy is best left to professionals."

[King Mongo]

65. Pushing Palestinians into the dead sea

In otherwords, you are requesting for enough time to expand the illegal settlements until Palestinians have been pushed into the dead sea.

Do you really believe that the removal of Palestinians from the holy land is the solution to many of the problems in the world? How will the removal of Palestinians from the holy land discourage the practice of international "terrorism" performed by radical Muslims? It is also my understanding that the undemocratic practices of a so-called democracy are used as an excuse by others to not practice democracy.

The Logistics of Transfer
http://www.gamla.org.il/english/article/2002/july/b1.htm


Maybe that you mean that the Israeli Palestinian conflict is not an issue since you find that the E-1 Plan is sealing a one-state solution, resulting in the recognition of equality and citizenship for everyone including a return of the refugees in the near future.

Letting Israel Self-Destruct
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34025-2004Aug25.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

Yes, you are right that equality and citizenship for everyone in a one-state solution is the best most logical solution and thus the international focus should be concentrated on other more serious issues, such as finding a cure for AIDS.

By the way, in my opinion, the best cure for AIDS in Africa is employment because then people are distracted from thoughts about sex with thoughts about making and spending money over an lengthy period of time.

[QueerJustice]

67. Whats with all this ``Dead Sea Business``?...

(I was laughing as I typed this question)

The dead sea unfortunately is drying up in parts unfortunately due to the fact that The Kinneret is used so much for drinking purposes and water does not flow down Israel in enough quantities to replenish that dehydration...There was a plan a few years ago to make a connection between The Mediterranean / or The Red sea but the cost was billions and it got sidetracked by The so called `` Intifada``.

[IndianaGreen]

68. A one-state solution won't work

I certainly would not want to live under any sort of Islamic Republic, which is what you will get in a one-state solution. Those good freedom fighters of Hamas don't give a crap about civil liberties. They just want to impose their own little theocracy in Palestine, and they will not hesitate to murder any Palestinians that stand in their way in the same way in which they had not qualms about murdering Israelis and Americans.

A two-state solution may or may not work. Considering the level of violence in the region, thanks in part to our glorious adventure in Iraq, I have no faith whatsoever that the Roadmap can be salvaged in any way. The only two people that still believe in the Roadmap are Blair and Bush. Unfortunately, they are not the ones that need to believe in the Roadmap.

I think it is time we rethink our theology about the I/P conflict. Perhaps we might consider a settlement that is practical only because it is related to the facts as they are today. Perhaps we should consider repartitioning the land, and compensating all those that need compensating. The I/P conflict will never have any winners. A peace settlement will never be a WIN-WIN proposition, for there will always be factions on either side that will never he happy until they obliterate the other side.

When it comes to I/P, LOSE-LOSE may turn out to be the only realistic solution.

[King Mongo]

71. Islamic Republic

I find it incorrect to assume that the majority of the people of Eretz Israel will vote for an Islamic Repubilc. While it is true that Eretz Israel has several Islamic political parties, one of which is quite large, the majority of the people in Eretz Israel still support non-Islamic political parties, such as the PA, Labor party, etc. Even if the majority did vote for an Islamic republic, it would still be a democracy. In my view, Eretz Israel will simply become more equal in the future with a higher level of equality, tolerance and respect towards other groups. A division would really do nothing other than to reduce tolerance which would increase hostilities that can't even be hindered by a big separation wall.

[drdon326]

72. Really ?

I find it incorrect to assume that the majority of the people of Eretz Israel will vote for an Islamic Repubilc.

YA THINK SO??

[King Mongo]

75. What do I think?

I think that the people of Eretz Israel will vote for which ever system works the best for everyone. If the current system works well, then most people will support it. I find that the current system has been improving over the years and is only lacking a little more cultural diversity and some more equality to become more efficient.

[QueerJustice]

69. Huh?

``Do you really believe that the removal of Palestinians from the holy land is the solution to many of the problems in the world? ```

Where did I say that?

Pushing anyone into Yam Hamelach(Dead Sea) is not very practical anyway as due to the very high salt content its almost impossible to drown...if you ever get a chance to swim there you would see that a person floats almost to the top of the water.....

where by the way did I say this?
```Yes, you are right that equality and citizenship for everyone in a one-state solution is the best most logical solution ```
``

Was your reply to MY POST??????????????

[King Mongo]

70. Yes, my reply was to your post.

I understood your post as follows:

While the illegal settlements are expanding, people should allow them to continue expanding while seeking a solution to global warming.

In otherwords, the illegal settlements will expand to the dead sea and maybe even beyond it before global warming has been solved.

Since it is logical that Palestinians cannot float in the dead sea for a very long time, I thus understand your message as stating that Palestinians will become a part of the expanding illegal settlements, enjoying the benefits of equality and citizenship. Thus, I find that you are expressing support for a one-state solution with equality and citizenship for everyone, meaning that the IP conflict is not an issue since it has been solved and international focus can be concentrated elsewhere, like solving global warming.

I must say, your logic impresses me and I agree that a one-state solution is the best solution. Israel is such a small piece of land and thus it only makes sense for it to be shared under conditions of equality and democracy.

[QueerJustice]

73. NONSENSE

``I must say, your logic impresses me and I agree that a one-state solution is the best solution. ```

I SAID NO SUCH THING.....

[King Mongo]

74. Agreed

However, encouraging people to find the solution to global warming pror to discussing expanding illegal settlements can be understood as expressing support for the consequences of expanded illegal settlements, given the large amount of time needed to find solutions to complex problems like global warming or AIDS.

There is no doubt in my mind that expanding illegal settlements will enforce a one-state solution much sooner than a cure for AIDS has been found. Even today, many people believe taht a one-state solution is no longer possible due to the demographic realities on the ground caused by expanding illegal settlements.

Thus, I am forced to conclude that you do support a one-state solution and there is nothing wrong with that because I support such too.

[QueerJustice]

77. WRONG...

Your conclusion is WRONG....

ARE YOU RECEIVING MY OPINIONS TELEPATHICALLY......

....because I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU......THOSE ARE NOT MY OPINIONS....

...SO GIVE IT A REST.......:mad:

[King Mongo]

78. No problem

No problem. This means that we should not wait until the discovery of a solution to AIDS to discuss illegal settlement expansion.

I'm glad that we both agree that illegal settlement expantion is a problem which should be discussed now and not later. :)