time to close Gaza's Karni Crossing

[pelsar]

The northern industrial area (erez), which gave work to 4,000 palestenians has now been closed after it was proven that it cannot be secure. Too many times palestenians dug tunnels, snuck in between the cracks, or just blew themselves up at the entrance terminal.

So to for the southern entrance at Rafiah....tunnel dug underneath, and more israelis dead....that too has now been closed.

Whats left is the Karni crossing, over 800 trucks daily pass from Gaza to israel and out to jordan. Here, like in the other crossings, over the years, the palestenians have attacked this as well, or have used it to slip through palestenian suicide bombers. Now we've got 5 more dead.

So the question in israel now being asked is why should israel even keep it open?, why should israel allow palestenian goods to pass though its territory when we pay for it in our blood? We certainly dont need the palestenian produce nor its products.

Those tunnels, are prepared and dug in palestenian territory, many times under the watchful eye of the PA security forces...it is their responsibility to stop them....which they apparently dont really care to do.

so perhaps it now time to close their last crossing...let the medicine, food flow in....but keep their trucks out of israel....

its called being responsible for ones actions, they cant protect whats in their own interests....we certainly dont have to

[DELUSIONAL]

1. link -- or is this your opinion?

[pelsar]

3. just some thoughts.....

just some thoughts I had while watching the news...

the settlers, as far as I remember had a different entrance a couple kiliometers just north of karmi.

as far as I know, the employees of the various UN type programs all go back and forth, as do many from the media. I've seen this in the closed "erez" industrial area, as do palesteniains VIPSs

those who are "unaffiliated" (i.e. ISM) with intentions of getting in the way of IDF operations are generally kept out. This is Gaza which is very different from the west bank. Gaza is far more violent wiht intl volunteers not really understanding the "rules" -which areas are free fire zones which arent.

Getting in the fire line when mortors and kassams are being fired is a good way to get killed....and like many palesteniains they wouldnt always know that they being used as human shields. And the outcry would be tremendous as we've heard in the past.

the official line is something to the affect of "we dont want you to get killed" the unofficial line is "we dont give a shit about you, but we dont need the bad PR"

[idontwantaname]

4. i thinik thats the general idea though...

mortars and kassams as well as free fire zones are all part of the package.
to draw media and call attention... and get more international audience for the zoo that is known as the gaza strip.

[pelsar]

5. a zoo.....

yea....thats about it....

i was talking to my commander last week, who lives there.....the general feeling is that they know its time to go, and the vast majority understand the situation.

some would like to leave the settlements intack for the palestenians.....as its stands, if they would stop the kassams and mortors it would really "help" the situation.

now it seems even more absurd, the settlers are willing to leave, but as the attacks continue it now makes it harder to do so in an orderly fashion and do it to the advantage of the palsetenians.

[idontwantaname]

2. how do the settlers get in and out of gaza?

also whats the official line for not letting internationals in?... other than media...

[pelsar]

6. getting in and out....

the settlers, as far as I remember had a different entrance a couple kiliometers just north of karmi.

for those unaffiliated.....
the official line is something to the affect of "we dont want you to get killed" the unofficial line is "we dont give a shit about you, but we dont need the bad PR if and when you do get killed"