Abbas says won't use force against militants

[drdon326]

In a meeting Friday with Arab Israeli lawmakers in Ramallah, Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas said he would not comply with Israel's demands to use force against the militants behind the Thursday attack on the Karni crossing. Abbas said that he would rather try to negotiate a truce with the militant groups.

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Abbas has said he will not use force against militants. Instead, he is expected to try to co-opt them by asking Al Aqsa gunmen, many of them former policemen, to return to their jobs, and by offering Hamas a say in decision-making. The Islamic militant group has also said it would participate in legislative elections in July.

In coming weeks, Abbas is to conduct Egyptian-brokered talks with the militants in Gaza and in Cairo. Egypt has renewed a proposal for a one-year suspension of attacks, according to a senior Hamas official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

During the meeting with the Arab lawmakers, Abbas said he was upset with Israel for holding him responsible for attacks before he has even been sworn in as Palestinian leader, Taleb Al Sana, one of the legislators at the meeting, told Israel Army Radio.

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The European Union on Friday condemned the suicide attack and called on the new Palestinian leadership to help stop further violence. "The (EU) presidency urges the Palestinian authorities to do all they can to prevent such acts in the future," said a statement released by Luxembourg's government, which holds the EU's rotating presidency. "It is imperative to put an end to attacks and violence."

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/527436.html

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So...to sum this up

1.abbas will not arrest even one terrorist
2. he will talk to them
3.he will invite them into the government
4.hes pissed at israel for believing in him
5.he will blame israel.

un.believe.able.

[number6]

1. and what exactly is he going to use against them

his sling shot or his twiddly winks ....

he has no force to use ..

[eyl]

2. He still has about

30,000 (IIRC) troops (or police, if you prefer).

[number6]

17. even if true (30,000)

a. who's to say they'll do what Abbas sez.

b. if there's say 60,000 Hamas, Hezbollah, and other Militants
who's going to win eh ?

c. why should these guys help fight, when Israel has destroyed
Palestinian infa-structure, built walls, and in general tormented
the Palestinian People

[eyl]

20. If Abbas is all that powerless

what point is there in negotiating with him?

[drdon326]

3. He is the one who said....

there should be no terrorist attacks.....or was that just MORE BULLSHIT for the western media.

As of this writing he is now in charge, with 30,000 police/security.

Time for him to show his true colors.

My prediction....he says some words ( for the western media ,of course), issues a stern warning to the murderers about there better not be a next time <wink,wink,nod,nod> and does not lift a finger to arrest even one terrorist.

And in a few days after the NEXT suicide murder or atrocity committed by the TERRORist plalesTINIAN, we will repeat this same exercise.

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[drdon326]

5. I know its hard to respond to the article.....

but lets give you a shot at it.

What do YOU think abbas's response should be??

And what WILL his response be?

[QueerJustice]

6. lets also talk about the here and now....

The King David hotel bombing while interesting to historians is irrelevant to 2005`s opportunity for the palestinians to advance themselves NOW.....as usual they are about to miss an opportunity.....

of course this is Israels fault.....they are also to blame for global warming....and the slide into near extinction of sperm whales ALL because of Sabra and Shatilla I think.......

[Violet_Crumble]

8. Knock it off...

Here's a hint. Try to stop telling everyone else what to do while you go ahead and then talk about history when it suits you. It's getting boring and pretty irritating..

And the attempt to paint anyone who dares to utter a word of criticism of Israel as *blaming Israel for everything* is incredibly lame...

Violet...

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[QueerJustice]

11. oh my....

in reply to a ludicrous post that says ``

``So not only did the Zionists invent modern terrorism, they invented how to deal with it too.``

I believe it is justified to comment and lump into the ``blame Israel`` for everything crowd...and it deserves all the mocking and belliteling one can muster....


and as for...

``It's getting boring and pretty irritating..``

well don`t read my boring and irritating posts...its easy...just move on....



;)

[ashiebr]

12. "it deserves all the mocking and belliteling one can muster"....

Well some might agree. Others might note that all it needs is someone with the wit and skill to do it.

But if that is all certain people can "muster"......!

[QueerJustice]

13. I agree...BUT...

I wish to remain civil and also I want to refrain from using public humiliation .



:)

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[QueerJustice]

16. nope same policiy

[ashiebr]

9. of course this is Israels fault.

For once we agree!

[The Magistrate]

18. That Is An Awfully Silly Statement, Mr. Ashiebr

You may try to gum the thing some more if you wish, but it is damned stale bread.

The center of military and civil administration of an enemy is a legitimate target in any form of conflict; indeed, there is no more legitimate target in armed conflict. To call this attack "terrorist" only makes quite clear that the word "terrorism" conveys information about the person using it, rather than the thing to which the appellation is attached: you indicate by this usage that you do not approve of the cause in which this act of violence was executed, and of course, we all already know that. If the same act were carried out in a cause of which you approved, you would doubtless find some other word to characterize it than "terrorism." That, Sir, is a difference between us far more profound than our differing views of this Levantine squabble: it is your practice to judge what you approve of, and what you oppose, by differing standards, and that is not my practice.

"Zionists" no more invented something called "modern terorism", let alone a unique way to deal with it, than they invented falafel or chala bread. No one urging this here has yet been able to provide a useable definition of "modern terrorism" that does not include hunmdred of events long prior to the particular attack you reference. Nor has anyone been able to identify anything unique in the political history of Israel after the '48 war that makes special the prominence of some of the gun-men active in the period before that, for there are very few instances of nations established through struggle in which some men who participated in that struggle did not manage to transform their violent credentials into political position of some sort.

"The Law in its majesty forbids rich and poor alike to beg in the street, to sleep under bridges, and to steal bread."

[ashiebr]

19. "it is your practice.................

........... to judge what you approve of, and what you oppose, by differing standards......".

And can you give me, say, three examples where I have done that? I mean, you must have the evidence to back up such an assertion.

[drdon326]

21. lol

yeah......i'm sure we all keep lists.

Glass houses have nice views but you dont get much privacy.lol

[ashiebr]

22. The Mag is is real trouble....

...if you have to come riding to the rescue!

[The Magistrate]

23. If The Observation Rankles, Mr. Ashiebr

You have always of the option of demonstrating a unitary standard in future comments on the matter....

"Many imagine they are thinking when they are really just re-arranging their prejudices."

[ashiebr]

24. A nice side-step Madge...

..but no substitute for evidence.

[Violet_Crumble]

7. The article was okay

..but the summing up of the attempt to interpret what the article was saying was imho on the idiotic side...

Violet...

[pelsar]

14. patience....

lets see what he can do....hes got a lot of politicalizing and manuevering to do between a multitude of groups.

jumping in and declaring this or that is counterproductive, we probably dont know even a percentage of what hes actually doing.

[Liberal Classic]

25. Meet the new Abbas

Same as the old boss.

[DemFromMem]

26. Uh, this is not really current

The story is from a week ago and a lot has changed in this story in the last week. Ha'Aretz right now has this as it's lead story:

PA to deploy hundreds of policemen in northern Gaza
By Amos Harel and Arnon Regular, Haaretz Correspondents

The Palestinian Authority is set to deploy hundreds of security service personnel in the northern Gaza Strip on Friday morning to prevent the launching of Qassam rockets into Israel.
The deployment, which was approved Thursday by Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz, is expected to be complete by Sunday.

Moussa Arafat, head of the PA's National Security Service, presented the plan to Israel Defense Forces officers at a meeting at the Erez checkpoint on Wednesday night. The deployment must be coordinated with Israel to ensure that Israeli forces do not mistake the policemen for terrorists and open fire. The agreement states that the two forces will maintain a distance of a few hundred meters between them.

Thursday's agreement covers only northern Gaza, but the parties are also discussing a Palestinian deployment in other parts of the Strip.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/530080.html

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Sharon seems to be reasonably comfortable with Abbas right now and Abbas is starting to show a backbone. He needs to have a honeymoon and it looks like Sharon is curring him the needed slack.