Bystander killed in failed IAF assassination attempt in Gaza

[newyorican]

Israel Air Force helicopters fired three missiles
at a target north of Gaza City on Tuesday evening,
killing at least one person and wounding around 26
others, according to hospital officials in the
Gaza Strip.

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Resident Shadi Tayan, who owns a
bookstore in the area, said
"the people in the car jumped
out and ran in two different
directions" after one rocket
landed near the front of the
car. After the men fled, two
more missiles hit.

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The attack killed bystander Hassan Hamlawi, 65,
who was sitting on the sidewalk outside his
water pipe shop when the missiles hit nearby.
Among those wounded were four children,
including an 8-year-old boy in critical
condition, doctors said.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/333570.html

Divest and disengage. The only moral option left.

[LeftCoast]

1. That's ok...they were just Palestinians...

Remember, it's only TERROR if Israelis die....

/sarcasm

[jos]

2. And I'm sure the American media will have wall-to wall coverage

And Faux News will have hostile and one-sided questions for the Israeli spokesperson.

(More sarcasm).

[QuietStorm]

3. you mean SO CALLED innocent bystanders

those pain in the ass innocent bystanders... (clemenza in the GODFATHER)

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[rini]

5. why can't you understand

the difference between deliberate targeting children and innocents and collateral damage.

[bemildred]

6. There is no difference.

Face up to it. They knew perfectly well what they were
shooting at, and what the effect would be. Worse yet, they
botched it.

[Herschel]

7. Explain yourself

First you say they knew what the effect would be. Then you say they botched it. Choose one.

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[Herschel]

11. Mind yourself

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[drdon326]

14. bemildred....

I could be wrong but i sense a little anger
in your tone.

[Darranar]

15. SO?

What does that have to do with anything?

I don't detect any anger in his tone, only slightly exasperated humor.

[drdon326]

16. DARRANAR.....

i was joking.....thanx for ruining it....again.

:spank:

[Darranar]

17. SO?

Ruining it was fun.

:spank: back at you, too.

[bemildred]

19. You are so sensitive.

Sniff.
Those little emotional feelers never miss a thing.
Sniff.

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[bemildred]

32. FWIW

I saw nothing wrong with yr post.

Wondering why "bite me(2)" is OK.

[Aidoneus]

33. the (2) gives it class and style

.

[bemildred]

34. Hmmm ...

A man page perhaps?

biteme < -bdcjm > < -[ hard | easy > user user

:-)

[newyorican]

9. no need to choose...

The IAF knew innocent civilians would get killed, but they went ahead without any regard for human life *and* then the IAF botched it by missing the intended target.

They sure did get that old man and his donkey though.

[bemildred]

10. Indeed.

Firing three missiles into a traffic jam,
there was no question that some random bystanders,
or bysitters as the case may be,
would get splattered about,
but even with this big of a hammer,
they failed to "service the target".

[Darranar]

12. Tell me if this is what you mean...

I think you mean that they knew that if they fired on the militant, innocent bystanders would be hurt and likely killed. Not only did they know that as they fired on the militant, but they missed the militant.

[bemildred]

18. Bingo.

[Herschel]

13. I approve of the work they do

Neither they or these brave men targeted innocents. You know that.

[SOS]

25. Intent is irrelevant.

Who was targeted is completely meaningless. Only the result matters. They fired missles into a crowded street with complete disregard for the lives of innocent bystanders. In the US this is a felony called criminally negligent homicide as defined:

(a) A person commits the crime of criminally negligent homicide if, with criminal negligence, the person causes the death of another person.

You can't kill and cripple 27 bystanders and absolve yourself by saying that you were aiming at someone else.
And how is firing missles from a helicopter an act of bravery? Bravery implies a willingness to meet danger, to show courage under life-threatening conditions. If the pilots were not facing a direct threat, the word brave does not apply.

And yes, those who sponsor suicide attacks against Israelis should be arrested and charged with murder in the first degree.

[LogicTrueFalse]

22. What innocents were targeted in this action

?

[Darranar]

23. The dead man...

an innocent civilian. That was dfong's point.

I personally don't think he was targeted. I think that those who fired didn't care much about civilian casualties, but he wasn't targeted deliberately.

Of course, a chicken strangled is different from a chicken with its head cut off, but does it matter to the chicken?

Welcome to DU, LogicTrueFalse!

[drdon326]

24. NONE. Welcome to i/p , LogicTrueFalse

aka....your worst nightmare.

[newyorican]

26. Everybody in the field of fire

that didn't belong to Hamas. The pilot didn't fire wildly, I hope. The poor old guy and his donkey were in the crosshairs when the pilot(s) pulled the trigger.

Maybe you have a different definition of "targeted". You probably do.

[LogicTrueFalse]

27. The poor old guy and his donkey were in the crosshairs

You can prove this of course? Do you have battle video to back it up
or is that an opinion of yourse?

[newyorican]

28. no opinion

the missle hit him...duh

On Edit: If he was *not* deliberately in the crosshairs when the pilot fired, then the pilot was firing indiscriminately.

[LogicTrueFalse]

29. The poor old guy and his donkey were in the crosshairs

Was it a direct hit on The poor old guy and his donkey or were they
victims of the local blast? Again, do you have proof that The poor old guy and his donkey were hit directly and The poor old guy and his donkey were in the crosshairs?

[LogicTrueFalse]

30. I see you edit and call

You can prove the tareting system did not malfunction or somehow
receive bad information? If so it will add creedence to such a claim.

[newyorican]

31. I hope you 'see' the edit

since I placed "On Edit:" in the post. Your skills of observation must be legend.

Your skills of debate, however, leave much to be desired:

You can prove the tareting system did not malfunction or somehow
receive bad information? If so it will add creedence to such a claim.

I was joking about the "malfunction" drool, I thought you were also. I now see I have severely over-estimated your cognitive abilities. My bad.

BTW, Welcome to DU.